Kamala Harris says abortions are a constitutional right

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Harris is a lawyer, district attorney, attorney general, senator and now VP, yet she still doesn't know what the Constitution is. Before she gets into imaginary rights, perhaps she should brush up on the existing ones first.



     
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    So when did you get your law degree that entitles you to this opinion?
     
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    It's called th US Constitution - read it sometime.
     
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    Really Kamala? And which one of the seven Articles of the Constitution covers abortion?
     
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    I already know you don't understand it.
     
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    Right there:
    The Preamble


    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​
     
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    If I were a Liberal justice, I would base it off the 10th Amendment: Any rights not granted to the government, are presumed to belong to the States and thereby the people. There is no legal codification of abortion(and Democrats know this, thats why they're using it as an election tool for a democratic majority) but there technically doesn't need to be since the 10th amendment should give them that freedom.

    The conflict occurs however when the states take actions to limit, restrict, or ban abortions. But if I were the DOJ, I would argue that abortions are a medical procedure, and that there's no 'legitimate interest' that the State can cite, in taking such actions.
     
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    That’s a real stretch. Using your logic everything is constitutional.
     
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    Are you serious? It was a constitutional right, right up until the RWNJs on the court reinterpreted the Constitution.

    DERP
     
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    How many times must I post this for you?

    Amendment IV, Section 1:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


    I can't believe that you still don't understand this issue. The 4th amendment guarantees us the right to personal privacy, and protection from unreasonable searches. It's none if the government's effing business if a woman is pregnant. There is no more unreasonable search that that of a woman's body.

    It is most certainly not your business, nor any of the others posting their ignorance on this thread.
     
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    Back at you. Read #11.
     
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    Not all rights are enumerated....please show where the Constitution forbids abortion....
     
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    See #11.
     
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    Pregnancy is a medical condition. It's none of the state's effing business. See #11.
     
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    You ask other people when they got their law degree and then cite the preamble as legally binding? Good grief! :sunnysideup:
     
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    That IS the point. It is a LIVING document. It is meant to help us achieve a more perfect union by being responsive to the needs of the day, not taking us back in time to someone's interpretation of history.
     
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    The preamble is not legally binding and the Constitution is not alive. I know you don't believe this because you complain whenever the court rules against your politics. Good grief! :sunnysideup:
     
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    Harris said it was a Constitutional right because the Supreme had said that it was in 1973. That changed when the court reversed the ruling in 2022.

    "The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday overturned the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that established abortion as a constitutional right.

    The decision by five of the Court’s nine justices will allow each state to set its own abortion laws, leading to a patchwork of access throughout the country"

    https://www.virginiamercury.com/202...turns-right-to-abortion-in-landmark-decision/

    I suggest you have misinterpreted what she meant by that statement. By the way The Supreme Court has never said that any abortion is illegal. They have just given the right to states to decide what rules apply to abortion. There is not a single state in the Union where abortion itself is illegal.
     
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    This from people that think that socialism kills people.
     
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    Do you like turtles? Why are you talking about socialism?
     
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    Abortion falls under commerce which can be regulated. The government isn't searching women to see if the are pregnant.
     
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    Great! That means the 2nd Amendment limits you to these.

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    How?
     
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    Correct it isn't the states business but business practices and procedures are part of governments business. Medicine itself is a business and is regulated. Shy should abortion be the one thing that isn't regulated?
     

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