Kangaroo Courts and Deep State: why this will backfire.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know most MAGAs don't actually believe in the Deep State narrative. It's just bluster they use to motivate each other in response to Trump's imminent conviction in criminal court. As well as an excuse in case they lose in November. They are already building the narrative to justify why Trump loses the elections.

    But here is the problem.

    Republicans who even pay attention to this narrative are of two types: those who don't believe it (the majority in this forum I'm sure... maybe all) and use it as a talking point, and those who do. The latter group is the problem for MAGAs. Because if you REALLY believe that the elections are rigged, why even bother to vote? Trump is going to lose anyway.

    This is group ranges from Republicans who don't like Trump much, but would vote for him if it meant avoiding Biden's second term, to those who will be too busy polishing their guns waiting for Trump's orders to attack The Capitol on January 6, 2025.

    Many of these people simply won't show up because... what would be the point! MAGAs convinced them that a Biden win is unavoidable no matter what. They have better things to do on November 5 other than to line up for hours to cast a vote that MAGAs told them won't count anyway. And Republicans better hope it doesn't snow.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Was the 2016 presidential election rigged?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    2016 and 2020 were most likely the two cleanest elections in our history.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    So, Trump was the legitimate president while he was in office? No question about it?

    Is anyone who claimed he was illegitimate a dumbass?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What the hell are you talking about? He won the elections and legitimately became the 45th President of the United States, if that's what you mean. After he was impeached, proven guilty of crimes and misdemeanors, but the senators (many of whom admitted he was guilty) refused to do their duty and remove him... that's a different topic...

    I don't know what it is you're trying to say. He colluded with Russia. Which is immoral, but not illegal (or, at least, that's what Mueller said). So yes! He won the elections, there was NO widespread fraud, and was legally appointed as the legitimate President of the United States.
     
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    Trump is tied or way ahead in every single swing state. Even if you give Biden the ties, Trump still wins.
     
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    No, but it was influenced by outside influences. But, unlike trump, HRC conceded and even attended trump's inauguration. Participating in the peaceful transfer of power ... instead of making it violent and never acknowledging his successor.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Clinton never admitted that Trump was the legitimately elected president.
     
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    Yes. She did. She literally called and conceded. The very next day. And she didn't do ANY of the things Trump did to try to overthrow democracy.
     
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    He was acquitted of those bogus impeachments as he should have been.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    And there it is...lol.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Show us where she said he was the legitimate president.
     
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    She did concede AND congratulate him on his win; as is our tradition.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    She always claimed he was the illegitimate president.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here we go again with the endless distortions. Hillary conceded the election in graceful fashion. Some time later, after more revelations of the extent of Russia's help with Trump's campaign came out, and after the revelations of Trump's eagerness to not just accept but solicit Russia's help (like Donnie J's Tower meeting) were fully understood, she made inarticulate, frustrated remarks regarding the legitimacy of Trump's presidency. NOT WHETHER HE WAS LEGITIMATELY ELECTED IN TERMS OF THE ELECTION ITSELF, THE VOTE COUNT, BEING FRADULENT. BUT RATHER THE MANNER IN WHICH THE CAMPAIGN WAS CONDUCTED.

    This is exactly the kind of disingenuous, deceitful narrative we've come to expect from Faux (a metaphor for RWM) and as a consequence from The Following.

    Clinton was asked whether it angers her that none of the current Democratic candidates invoke her on the campaign trail while Trump’s rally crowds still break out into “lock her up” chants.

    “No, it doesn’t kill me because he knows he’s an illegitimate president,” she said. “I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    Was there voter suppression, purging of voter rolls, false stories, hacking of the DNC? Yes.
     
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    BUT! She conceded the election and congratulated him on his win. AND, BTW, isn't still going on about it so she can mine her supporters pockets.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Irrelevant. She's spent the past 7 years saying he was an illegitimate president.

    Is she stupid for doing that?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Who did the Trump Campaign hack?
     
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    When she conceded the next day and made NO move to ever stop his inauguration. Read.
     
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    Look at trump, yep it's stupid to do that. I haven't heard HRC say anything about the 16 election in a very long time. She rarely says anything publicly anymore, at all. But whatever fantasy floats your boat ... have at it.
     
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    Trump did not cheat. Instead, our biggest geopolitical rival spread disinformation in an attempt to cheat on his behalf.
     
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    Makes no difference. Kangaroo courts and the Deep State will make sure Biden gets four more years.

    But here's the good news for you: you don't need to bother going to your voting place on election day. Because if you do, your vote will be flipped to Democrat by the voting machines as soon as you cast it anyway.
     
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    Well, and then he tried to cheat after that didn't work. I regard the fake elector plot as the most obvious example of election cheating that we've seen in this country.
     
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    And IF President Biden loses, "it will be perfectly legal if SEAL Team 6 shoots trump" <- THAT IS A JOKE.

    But, show's how ridiculous trump's legal defense has become.
     
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    That's what Trump's attorney says. And it was NOT a joke when he said it.
     
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