Kangaroo Courts and Deep State: why this will backfire.

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    I know :roll:
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    There is absolutely no doubt that they are trying their best.
     
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    Show me just one of the russian ad buys.
     
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    Are you aware of Interstate Crosscheck and how it might have tipped the scales for Trump in 2016?
     
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    And there will be a January 6 in 2025 also. THAT's when MAGAs expect they can stop it.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah. It doesn't work. Too many false positives. But, in any case, it's not going to make much of a difference. Voting in two states is way more difficult than voting twice with a mail-in ballot. The cases are just too infrequent to matter.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The point was there were some 1.1 million voters purged from the voter registration rolls which were disproportionately affecting blacks and inner city voters. In the two swing states the number purged vastly exceeded the numbers of votes Trump won by. This was documented in the film "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" by investigating journalist Greg Palast. It was so bad a federal judge shut it down but that was after the election
     
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    It all depends on what you mean by "rigged"

    Were there false votes? Attempts at submitting fake electoral slates? Attempts to pressure state officials to overturn certified vote totals? No

    Was there interference from foreign nations in an attempt to propagandize in favor of Trump and to the detriment of Hillary? Hell Yes...there is even a Republican controlled Senate Committee report that verifies this.
    Was there interaction between the Trump campaign and Russian agents to help in the above named endeavors? Again, Hell Yes. Once again the Republican controlled Senate Committee verifies this.

    So if the former is the only definition of "rigged" you will accept then no, 2016 was not rigged.

    If you don't consider then latter to be rigging an election then I don't know what to tell you. That you don't have a problem with the latter means I REALLY don't know what to tell you.
     
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    I don't think it delegitimizes the elections. The fact that it exceeds the number of votes by which Trump won doesn't mean they would have been for Hillary if this hadn't happened. Some WERE actual cases of voters who moved, others could have been Trump voters, others were allowed to cast a conditional ballot... There are many fortuitous things that can happen in an election. It is not a perfect system. But in order for this to have actually tilted the elections in a malicious way, too many layers would have had to existed.
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If people have to go to the polls, that is an advantage for Reps. I people can stay home and just color in a circle, thats an advantage for Dems.


    BTW, MAGA is a campaign slogan. Are people who voted for hope and Change, HACs?
     
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    It is a form of protest.
     

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