Kenneth Hagin: "If America is in trouble, it is the church's fault!"

Yes, thru Jesus Christ. Judaism and Christianity are one and the same. It comes from God, not from men. It is men who divide it.

 

Judaism and Christianity are absolutely NOT one and the same thing.

You really need to explain THAT comment, as Christianity sees Jesus as part of God and the only way and Judaism flatly rejects both of those fundamental tenets.

It was God who made this division through Jesus, the REPLACEMENT of Judaism.

 

Well said Injeun.....
I could be wrong... I often am.... but it is my firm belief that Rabbi Nachman of Breslov was a beneficiary of the promise by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus of..... 'greater things shall YOU do... because I go to the Father"...... Rabbi Nachman of Breslov seems to have been able to astral project.... somewhat like the Prophet Elisha.... even into the lower levels of hades, the grave.... and it seems like he could somehow take somebody who had thrown themselves into a hell realm.... up to a higher place in the afterlife.......
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.... Former Atheist and modern near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava, in my opinion, could well be even more like the historical John the Baptist and / or the historical Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus than just about any Christian Theologian on earth........ at this time in 2023.......

Near death experiencer Kevin Zadai Th. D. in chapter six of his book and course... Heavenly Visitation.... talks about being shown how Rabbi Yeshua Jesus was in hell for that period of time between his burial or sunset on the day of his burial....... and the time of his resurrection, [For the record I believe in a Wednesday crucifixion and burial........ the first Day of Unleavened Bread on a Thursday in thirty one C. E...... the spices made on Friday........ the disciples rested on the weekly Sabbath......... a resurrection after Jesus was fully seventy two hours in the grave...... and then Jesus is ALREADY RISEN on the morning of the first day of the week when some of His disciples went to the tomb......

Thank you for replying to this discussion with boldness and chutzpah...... your comments add to every discussion that I have ever began WillReadMore...... Your name is indeed true......... but.......

Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His Resurrected form can do whatever He wants to do with all Christians... and all Jews..... and all Gentiles... and all Atheists...... in whatever manner He pleases.... and your understanding of the Jewish and Christian scriptures will NOT stop Him from making whatever judgements He chooses to make in regards to every departed soul......... for example Tina Turner..... Sinead O'Connor..... Ms. Kate Spade.... or anybody else who He decides to meet and bring into Paradise........ [even the word "paradise' is subject to definition by Messiah Yeshua Jesus in His resurrected form.......}

 

How do you defend the contribution of Christianity to the humanitarian atrocity being carried out by Judaism in Palestine?

 

I see no place in the Bible where Jesus proposed violence - let alone opposition to government or war. He didn't even propose opposition to the government of Rome, which certainly warranted opposition by most standards.

His message was one of helping fellow man. In fact, Matthew quotes Jesus as stating that failure to search those who need help and provide for their needs will be punished by hell.

So, how does this explain the humanitarian atrocity that Israel is carrying out in Palestine, with the direct aid of American Christianity as we prevent the pleas of Palestine to various UN agencies from being answered?

It is no stretch that the atrocity is continuing BECAUSE American Christians aid and defend that atrocity, and have done so for decades.

 

Good question.... but there does seem to be an answer to this......

"And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace." [Mark 3:4}

I believe that the Scribes and Pharisees remained silent.... because they knew their own history quite well......

It seems to me that the general tendency to "turn the other cheek" is not meant to be a moral absolute that should include simply allowing evil people, such as the Greco - Syrian armies in the time of the Maccabees... to be free to kill us and take our children to be slaves......... In other words.... I believe that this question by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus hints that a true Christian could be a soldier or police officer... and could even kill an evil doer.... even on the Sabbath..... if they are threatening lives or damaging property........

 

This doesn't answer my post.

The point is how do we use the teachings of Jesus to aid and defend the continuation of the atrocity of Israel's ethnic cleansing in Palestine?

I realize there are questions concerning what can be done for peace there, but that isn't the issue, either.

We actually do WORK to enable the continuation of that atrocity.

How is that WORK justifiable in the name of Jesus and his teachings?

 

YES!!!!!!

This sermon is very much on that theme.... and the prayers at the end of this sermon.... I found them to be very moving!

 

The quotation from near death experiencer Kenneth Hagin is verified after the forty nine minute mark in this video.....

 

This certainly helps to explain why the predictions by Julie Green and Kim Clement and others were seemingly delayed.

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