Kherson offensive?

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Except of course the Ukrainians were striking those bridges well before the offensive even started so this news report really isn't telling us anything new 'gathering pace' is PR speak. It really comes down to what they're striking the bridges with. If it's HIMARS or air launched ground attack weapons? No real change. Artillery? The Ukrainians are advancing.
     
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    The Russians are in over their heads.
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    Ukraine’s counteroffensive is more than just bravado
    Opinion by David Ignatius

    ". . . The Russian military is disoriented because of the pounding they’ve received, U.S. officials believe. Analysts estimate that Russia has lost thousands of officers, including hundreds of colonels and dozens of generals. The relentless attacks have forced Russian commanders to keep moving headquarters posts, adding to their command and logistical problems.

    Ukraine’s other big advantage in this new phase of the war is the “partisan” campaign behind the lines against the Russian occupiers. U.S. military commanders warned their Russian counterparts to expect this brutal irregular warfare, based on the U.S. experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. Russian officials didn’t listen, and now they’re facing attacks they don’t see coming and can’t root out, despite all their firepower. Every Ukrainian with a cellphone is an artillery spotter or intelligence collector.

    This partisan campaign, like the HIMARS precision fire, is a product of U.S. planning and training of Ukrainian forces. Since 2014, U.S. Special Operations forces have been teaching the Ukrainians how to fight an occupying army — using special units like the ones that were so effective against al-Qaeda and Islamic State fighters.

    Gen. Richard Clarke, who is retiring this week as head of U.S. Special Operations Command, explained in an interview how the United States built up its Ukrainian special operations forces (SOF) counterparts in anticipation of a coming campaign against Russian invaders. . . . "
     
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    'A Porsche Compared To A Lada': Ukrainian Artillerists Swap Soviet Howitzer For Polish-Built Krab
     
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    Russian Offensive Campaign ...
    Key Takeaways


    • Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations with ground assaults and strikes against Russian GLOCs across the Dnipro River. Ukrainian forces made gains on the ground and have begun striking pontoon ferries across the river.
    • Russian President Vladimir Putin is likely setting legal and social conditions for the coerced cultural assimilation of displaced Ukrainians in Russia to erase their Ukrainian cultural identity.
    • Russian forces conducted a limited ground attack north of Kharkiv City.
    • Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks southwest of Izyum, south of Bakhmut, and near the western outskirts of Donetsk City.
    • Russian forces conducted a limited ground attack in northern Kherson Oblast.
    • An anonymous senior US military official stated that the US believes that Russia is firing artillery from positions around and in the vicinity of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.
    • Russian occupation authorities are continuing efforts to forcibly-integrate schools in occupied Ukraine into the Russian educational system and extending methods of social control.
    • Russian forces are continuing to move military equipment into Crimea.
    • Russian federal subjects (regions) are continuing to recruit and deploy volunteer battalions.
    • Russian occupation authorities are taking measures to forcibly-integrate Ukrainian schools into the Russian education space in preparation for the approaching school year. . . .
    Ukrainian military officials stated that the Ukrainian counteroffensive is ongoing in Kherson Oblast but did [not] confirm any Ukrainian advances due to operational security measures as of August 30.[20] Kherson Oblast Head Yaroslav Yanushevich stated that Ukrainian forces are continuing to prioritize the destruction of Russian ammunition depots, command posts, and force concentration areas alongside conducting ground maneuvers. Geolocated footage showed that Ukrainian forces have entered Arkhanhelske on the eastern bank of the Inhulets River and south of the Kherson-Dnipropetrovsk Oblast border.[21] The geolocation can further corroborate the CNN report from August 29 which reported that Ukrainian forces liberated Arkhanhelske on the first day of Ukraine’s counteroffensive operation.[22] Other evidence supports CNN’s report. Ukrainian military officials previously stated that the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DNR) forcefully mobilized 109th Regiment fled an unspecified area in Kherson Oblast on August 29.[23] The DNR deployed the 109th Regiment to Arkhanhelske and other settlements along the Inhulets River and Kherson-Dnipropetrovsk Oblast border in late July.[24] All this evidence further indicates that Ukrainian forces have advanced to Arkhanhelske[25]

    Ukrainian forces intensified their strikes against Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs), ammunition depots, and strongholds through northern and central Kherson Oblast on August 30. The Ukrainian Southern Operational Command reported on August 30 that Ukrainian forces continued to strike the Antonivsky road and railway bridges over the Dnipro River and the Darivka Bridge over the Inhulets River.[26] Russian and Ukrainian social media users uploaded footage that shows the aftermath of the Ukrainian strikes on the Antonivsky Road Bridge.[27] The Ukrainian Southern Operational Command also reported that Ukrainian aviation struck Russian forces and concentration points in Kyselivka and Kortyrka, along the frontline in Kherson Oblast.[28] Russian Telegram channels published the video of a smoke plume in Nova Kakhovka reportedly around the area of the Novokahovka Electromechanic Plant (south of the Kakhovka Bridge), though ISW cannot verify the cause or the precise location of the explosion.[29] Russian-appointed officials claimed that Ukrainian HIMARS strikes damaged residential areas in Nova Kakhovka, but ISW cannot verify this claim.[30] Social media footage also showed a smoke plume accompanied by audible explosions in Tavriisk (east Nova Kakhovka), and some social media users reported the activation of Russian air-defense systems.[31] Ukrainian forces also likely struck Beryslav, approximately 10km northeast of Nova Kakhovka and Oleshky, on the left bank of the Dnipro River.[32] Russian and Ukrainian Telegram channels also reported explosions in Kherson City and Chornobaivka throughout the day.[33]

    Ukrainian partisans likely engaged in combat with Russian forces in Kherson City on August 30. Geolocated social media footage from the Tavriiskyi microdistrict in northern Kherson City featured audible small fire in the distance.[34] Russian war correspondent Mikhail Andronik claimed that Russian security forces found an enclave of “Ukrainian militants” armed with small arms and improvised explosive devices in the Tavriiskyi microdistrict and noted that there was a shootout in the area.[35] Russian sources additionally claimed that Russian forces destroyed a Ukrainian reconnaissance group in Kherson City, though it is unlikely that an unsupported Ukrainian reconnaissance element maneuvered from Ukrainian-controlled territory over 10 kilometers through Russian-controlled territory all the way to Kherson City.[36] . . .
     
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    I think the invaders will start to fold like a cheap suit under sustained pressure from a well-trained, well-armed military fighting to reclaim its own territory and the local partisans assisting them. This is something that the orcs have never experienced, and it's obvious that their capabilities and morale are just not where they need to be to fight a real war, especially one of foreign conquest where they need to hold territory for months and years against this kind of opponent.
     
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    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, August 31
    Aug 31, 2022 - Press ISW

    Key Takeaways

    • The Russian Ministry of Defense and Russian milbloggers began an information operation declaring the Ukrainian counteroffensive a failure almost as soon as it was launched. It is far too soon to assess the progress of the counteroffensive operation, however, which will likely be difficult to evaluate in the short term if it relies on feints and misdirection.
    • Russian occupation authorities are imposing a curriculum on Ukrainian students aimed at eliminating the notion of Ukrainian national identity, explicitly in line with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s speeches and writings falsely claiming that Ukraine is part of Russia, and that the Ukrainian identity was an invention of the Soviet period.
    • The G7 Non-Proliferation Directors Group condemned Russian attempts to disconnect the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant from the Ukrainian power grid as “unacceptable” ahead of the arrival of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) delegation to the plant.
    • Russian forces conducted a limited ground attack north of Kharkiv City.
    • Russian forces conducted ground attacks south of Bakhmut and along the western outskirts of Donetsk City.
    • Russian-appointed officials in Crimea began “reconstructing” air defense systems to counter smaller targets in response to recurring drone attacks on the peninsula. Russian officials are likely strengthening Crimean air defenses at the expense of other theaters.
    • Zabaykalsky Krai announced the formation of the “Daursky” volunteer engineer-sapper battalion.
    • Ukrainian partisans conducted an improvised explosive device (IED) attack against the headquarters of the “Together with Russia” political organization in Berdyansk, Zaporizhia Oblast, where occupation authorities were reportedly preparing for sham referenda.

    ... https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-31
     
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    Ukraine War: What is the endgame in Kherson?
     
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    Ukraine Takes Out Russian Bridge as Kherson Counter-Offensive Ramps Up
     
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    Whoops, says this western journalist:

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    This will make excellent joke material later.
     
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    Ukrainian military command asks for silence about their offensive in social networks, because the enemy could use such information to his advantage.

    So be patient and await the final result. Slava Ukraini! :)
     
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    What $hithouse wall did you find this on.....Bill?

    Easy to cut and paste...
     
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    Meanwhile, here is a tweet from the same guy that Bill will never post:

    Julian Röpcke[​IMG]
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    Lasset die Legitimierung der illegalen Besetzung der Ukraine durch Russland beginnen.
    Selbes russisches Spiel wie 2014 bis 2022 mit der OSZE im Donbas.

    Let the legitimization of Russia's illegal occupation of Ukraine begin.
    Same Russian game as 2014 to 2022 with OSCE in Donbas.


    https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1565312949891334144

    I don't know why he is allowing Russian propaganda to shape his thinking about how this operation is proceeding, though. Russia got smashed for weeks when they started this thing, yet they eventually got their act together and made meaningful advances. Meanwhile, Ukraine's military is still new at going on the offensive and taking or retaking territory, and their supply of equipment is still quite limited also. This is very likely not going to be some overnight success that sees Kherson liberated in a matter of days.
     
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    It's sticking your fingers in your ears and singing tra la la ....I can't hear you.:), that's what Bill's about.
     
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    When and where? These guys tell a different story. https://odysee.com/@Baked:e/ukraine-shells-kherson-region-killing-subs:6
     
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    Update from Ukraine | Two Big Mistakes that Ruzzia done on the South of Ukraine


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    Ukies in Red Square any day now :laughing:
     
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    If they get Long range HIMARS....(and they will), Red Square will get a taste.
     
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    Yep...80% of China's economy linked to ours.:)
     
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