Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

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  1. Durandal

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    I wonder if conservatives would still want us to stay out of it if it came to that. Nukes are scary, after all.
     
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    Probably not....that means US interests are DIRECTLY affected.
     
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    Western media continues to report that select US officials have resumed discussing the idea of “freezing the lines” where they are because the latest package of US military assistance to Ukraine may not be enough for Ukraine to regain all its territory.

    Lads .. Prophet told you already what gonna come .. now even the propaganda pablum sources forced to admit the Truth been told you long ago .. now come to reality.

    The colors on the map -- the bleeding is done, the borders have been moved .. only thing yet to see is how far they gonna move .. and if Odesa gonna fall.

    "Goes Bad" say Zoom --- what is this "Goes Bad" .. as if this is some future event might happen.. Is already gone bad -- open eyes -- Biden latest JV Proxy Team has collapsed .. all the kings horses and the paltry western aid .. not going to put Humpty back together again.

    This is the Pablum downplaying the situation to best of ability "May not be enough" LOL .. now if that is not the understatement of the Year. In this trench - Artillery Battle .. Russia firing 6 - 1 shells. How the frick and frack Ukraine going to advance under those conditions ? With this arms package they be lucky to be able to achieve parity ~ 10,000 shells a day .. but for how long ? Maybe Nato and USA .. in this massive effort over last few months .. scouring the global arms market .. paying huge premium might have scavenged together 200,000 shells .. many old and thus having high failure rate. That Gives our boys 20 days .. call it a month of parity .. hopefully they can manage some air defense .. otherwise parity in artillery is not going win the day .. for 20 days . after which we go right back to the current status quo .. a Ukraine collapse.

    Lets say they gonna stretch it out for 2 months - (by stretch it out mean not in complete collapse and running backwards mode .. the won't be gaining any significant territory just maintaining the line) ... by July Zelensky gonna be on the television begging for more money once again - Ukraine gonna be out ammo - equipment - supplies even worse than now .. the only difference just more cartons of Ukrainian Sausage to send home for thanksgiving .. cept not going to be a bountiful harvest this year except in the sausage department ...

    Heard they trying to get all the able bodies who fled the country to come back and fight .. there is an exercise in futility.. and real moral booster for the ones in the fight .. folks on the front line saying .. more of the new ones they sending don't want to fight .. were pressed into service .. don't want to be there... gonna put up hands and surrender at first opportunity.
     
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    In the words of the Duke of Wellington after Waterloo:
    “It had been a damned nice thing - the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life."
    ― Arthur Wellesley Wellington

    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, April 27, 2024
    Apr 27, 2024 - ISW Press
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    Russian forces will likely make significant tactical gains in the coming weeks as Ukraine waits for US security assistance to arrive at the front but remains unlikely to overwhelm Ukrainian defenses. Politico reported on April 26 that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told US Speaker of the House Mike Johnson in December 2023 that Ukrainian forces would be able to “hold out” until March or April 2024 without additional US security assistance, a period through which Ukrainian forces are now passing without the arrival of US military aid.
     
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    Crimea got hit by ATACMS this mornin gifter....considerable damage and dead orcs I'm hearing.

    Pentagon looking to supply UAF with 300 or more of these toys.

    Kerch is next....don't say I didn't warn you....and your "prophet":rolleyes:
     
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    That is not prophecy Zoomer .. .. I told you they were gonna hit Kerch ...along with everyone else. Zoomer -- you need to get something right .. in opposition to what the Prophet say .. not agreeing with him.. and calling that a win.

    I heard there were some fired but didn't hear about the damage or casualties - could be that Russia shot them all down .. getting better .. learning the missile .. previous sortie they shot down 10 of 12 .. 2 got through .. :) Do you have any more deets on this attack Zoom .. stead of fantastical speculation and made up spoil.

    "Pentagon looking to supply" --- Don't hold your breath for too long on that one Zoomer .. the looking to supply F-16's for over a year .. they were looking to supply some Patriots but not apparently that is not going to happen any time soon .. getting the big reject for now. Being able to conduct a terrorist attack from time to time - is not going to change things on the front line zoomer.. the boys need artillery .. and they need air defense .. and they need it months ago.

    Zoom - I know its hard when dreams die .. but, how Ukraine gonna make progress without air defense - suppression .. Vlad in control of the sky. You can't win like that Zoomie .. and everything you do is going to come at the cost of a huge casualty rate 5-1, 10-1 .. depending on the exercise. With Russia in control of the sky .. the front line remains a slaughterhouse for the Ukraine side .. this being the main reason moral is so low .. and even the few battle harden Azov Troops are refusing to go there .. refusing to fight .. the green folks .. women and old men pressed into service .. have no desire to be there .. cannon fodder in line for certain death.
     
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    Well...yeah....Gifter....Mafiosi intercepted most or all missiles.....meaning the missiles hit their intended targets....LOL....you right about that.


    Yep....when Kerch becomes a "pier" ....I suspect Pootlerstan will dangle shortly after....or, maybe the Chinos will help build a "Eurotunnel" under the BS....but no worries....it would be done by the lowest bidder....a "few leaks" here and there no big deal.:rolleyes::omg:
     
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    When US support for Ukraine was in doubt some of the pro-Russian posters here seemed to disappear. Now that the US is back to supporting Ukraine I see that they're back. Coincidence? Just sayin'.
     
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    They're fidgety.....this latest "package" is bound to cause ...pain and discomfort.:)
     
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    Holy Backslap hoop dee whoo .. What is the Cheer team selling today Zoomer getting such attention !? Cum on Zoomer .. China is not coming to the rescue of Biden - Nato and Zelensky .. despite the pitiful cries for help. Don't believe it for a Second Zoomer and specially not if the Cheer-Team is on board .. you know they always get it wrong.


    Who Dat Jack --- I been laughing the whole way through .. at Zoomer and You :) Got to pay better attention .. stop making up silly stories about others Jack .. we call that strawman fallacy in these parts.
     
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    New defensive lines are being drawn around the Russian Empire every day now.

    Armenia seeks to be Western ally in Putin's backyard
    The Independent
    https://www.independent.co.uk › World › Europe

    5 days ago [4/23/24] —
    After a short and brief conflict with Azerbaijan, a neighbouring adversary, Armenia is in the process of breaking away from its historic ties with Russia to ..
    .
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-putin-eu-armenia-azerbaijan-b2533236.html
     
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    Intercepting all attacks have become theImpossible Dream.

    Headline says it all.


    https://www.detroitnews.com › story › news › world › 2024 › 04 › 28 › as-ukraine-runs-low-on-ammo-diyers-build-troops-drones-at-home-tdn › 73491939007
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    As Ukraine runs low on ammo, DIYers build troops drones at home
    Kyiv Region, UkraineBefore Russia invaded, Magdalyna, a florist, used a simple desk in her suburban home to assemble bouquets. Now it's where she builds drones. Bouquets are heavier but ...
    https://www.detroitnews.com/restric...ome-tdn/73491939007/&gps-source=CPROADBLOCKDH
     
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    Tajikistan advises it's citizens against any and all travels to the RuZzFed.....citing cases of forced conscription of migrants and visitors

    Some Cuban mercs murdered their RuZzian CO in Donetsk...citing humiliation, degradation, poor conduct, threats of violence, etc.

    Some advice for these "thrill seeker" Mercs saddling up with the Mafiosi "military".....stay away...there ain't no payoffs here for ya....either way, you'll end up dead.....e.g. Russell Bentley recently?....has he been found?....not.
     
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    'Beat them with a stick,' Ukrainian 'Grandpa' brings fight to Putin with OAP unit


    A volunteer unit of mostly old guys. They call themselves the Steppe Wolves. Got to love that.
     
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    Problems on other borders too:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-buys-81-soviet-era-145127753.html

    These aren't going to fly again, but you can be sure the Ukranians will be stripping them bare for anything useful. Pretty good use of $1.5 million. The Kazakhs know exactly what is going on here and so does Russia. Supposedly one of its closest allies. Guess not.
     
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    :).....a bunch of old guys lumping old explosives into old tubes bolted onto old cars......jeeeez....that can't end well.....:D
     
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    “Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.”
    ― Theodore Roosevelt
     
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    The hiatus in US support allowed the Russians to regain the initiative.
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, April 28, 2024
    Apr 28, 2024 - ISW Press
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    Recent Russian gains northwest of Avdiivka have prompted Ukrainian forces to withdraw from other limited tactical positions along the frontline west of Avdiivka, although these withdrawals have yet to facilitate rapid Russian tactical gains. Russian forces remain unlikely to achieve a deeper operationally significant penetration in the area in the near term. The continued Russian stabilization of their salient northwest of Avdiivka presents the Russian command with a choice of continuing to push west towards its reported operational objective in Pokrovsk or trying to drive northwards to conduct possible complementary offensive operations with the Russian effort around Chasiv Yar.
     
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    Older Ukrainians are stepping up. This article is behind a pay wall, but the headline tells the story

    https://www.detroitnews.com › story › news › world › 2024 › 04 › 28 › as-ukraine-runs-low-on-ammo-diyers-build-troops-drones-at-home-tdn › 73491939007
    As Ukraine runs low on ammo, DIYers build troops drones at home

    Kyiv Region, UkraineBefore Russia invaded, Magdalyna, a florist, used a simple desk in her suburban home to assemble bouquets. Now it's where she builds drones. Bouquets are heavier but ...
    https://www.detroitnews.com/restric...ome-tdn/73491939007/&gps-source=CPROADBLOCKDH
     
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    Russian influence evaporating fast.

    politico.eu
    https://www.politico.eu › article › russia-has-nothing-to...

    8 hours ago — [4/28/24]
    A seismic shift in Armenia's foreign policy that has seen it forge closer relations with the European Union is not a threat to Moscow, the country's ...
    https://www.politico.eu/article/rus...ar-from-eu-in-south-caucasus-armenia-insists/


    MOSCOW TIMES
    Armenia’s Envoy to the EU: ‘It Hurts to See How Moscow-Led Security Bloc Has Screwed Us’, Armenia, unhappy with Russia's waning role as a security guarantor, is seeking to strengthen its partnerships with the EU and the U.S.
    By Pyotr Kozlov
    Updated: April 26, 2024.
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024...oscow-led-security-bloc-has-screwed-us-a84928


    “PSCRP-BESA Reports No 54 (April 29, 2024)
    The war in Ukraine and the conclusion of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict highlight the end of Russian influence in the Southern Caucasus. The Russian presence in the region is dwindling. It is hard to find a better sign of it than the sudden Kremlin’s announcement that the 2000 troops would pull out of the Azerbaijani Karabakh region. The troops were supposed to function as peacekeepers, yet they were the remnants of Russian influence in the region.
    In the past, the Karabakh issue played a role in expanding Russian ambitions in the region, binding Yerevan’s decision-making to Moscow.”

    Dangerous Liaisons: Iran’s Anxieties and Armenian Pivot to the West
    By PSCRPApril 29, 2024
    https://besacenter.org/irans-anxieties-and-armenian-pivot-to-the-west/
     
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    Time for Lassie to Come Home.


    Cuban mercenaries killed Russian commander due to ill- ...
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    Українські Національні Новини
    https://unn.ua › news › cuban-mercenaries-killed-russia...
    2 days ago — Cuban mercenaries fighting in the Pokrovsk sector as part of the 428th Motorized Rifle Regiment have killed their commander. The reason was constant humiliation ...
     
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    The Russians are attempting to press their current advantage.
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, April 29, 2024
    Apr 29, 2024 - ISW Press
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    Russian forces secured additional marginal tactical gains northwest and southwest of Avdiivka as of April 29, but have not made significant advances in the Avdiivka direction over the last 24 hours. Geolocated footage published on April 28 and 29 indicates that Russian forces advanced in western and northeastern Ocheretyne (northwest of Avdiivka), along the rail line to the northwestern outskirts of Ocheretyne, and in Netaylove (southwest of Avdiivka).
     
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    Some good news:
    • “As part of its latest military aid package, Germany has provided another 10 "Marder" armored personnel carriers, a second Skynex anti-aircraft system, nearly
    • 30,000 rounds of ammunition for the "Gepard" anti-aircraft gun, ammunition for the Leopard 2 tank, missiles for the Iris-T system, and other supplies.
    The development comes days after German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said that Ukraine's allies in Europe must continue to provide assistance following a recent $61-billion aid package approved by Washington after months of talks.”

     
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    Update from Ukraine | ATACMS strike on Crimea | Ukraine is getting ready for the Kerch Bridge


    Of course, as always, the orc response to strikes on military targets in occupied territories is to bomb Ukrainian cities indiscriminately using cluster munitions.
     
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