Larger Than Watergate: 22 Page Criminal Complaint charges Obama birth record 'forged'

it's a great place to start but there is a powerful machine conspiring to keep people ignorant and in the dark. we are going to see lots of executive privilege and lawering up by the white house as the public self educates. liberal haze, obama coloured sunglasses.

 

It has everything to do with it, Mr. Conspiracy. If he wasn't elegible to be president we would have known about it long before he took office, because there are those far more qualified than you and your moonbat theories who were able to establish his bona fides. I have no idea what 'e-verify' is but in this context it's totally irrelevant, and as irrelevant as every last idiotic birther attempt at getting ANY concrete evidence against the man. You guys are hilarious.

 

Prove it's phony. Oh, you can't? There's a surprise...

 

well, in america we have due process. evidence is being gathered and evaluated. it is being investigated. we can just take im to the toer of londn an off wit is ead.

isn't it like midnight there ? why don't you toddle off to bed.

 

You've no idea what e-verify is? WTF? Your posts on the subject of Obama's eligibility are then totally irrelevant. Shoo

 

I'm sure that snopes.com will remark on that conspiracy theory too. Just give them some time. It is unreasonable to expect them to report on all the millions of myths the minute they are created.

 

i got to be honest, i have no idea where snopes is on this issue. there seem to be plenty of people from both sides of the issue using snopes for their arguments.
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same with factcheck, which senators use to explain the controversy, to respond to letters from their constituants, which i hear has ties to obama. there is some family connection, or boardmembers... i'm telling you... i grew up in chicago....

so i don't know who to trust with the facts or factchecks.

 

Conspiracy? Obama not being able to pass e-verify is a conspiracy? WTF, LoL

 

Is that really true Dutch- or is just another Birther lie?

As always when addressing Birther claims, it is good to go to the actual source- because Birthers often play loose and fast with the facts.

Your paste appears to be from Social Security's self check e-verify- says self- check right on it. So what does Social Security's own website say about self check e-verify?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=2ec07cd67450d210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=2ec07cd67450d210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Self Check is a voluntary, fast, free and simple service that allows you to check your employment eligibility in the United States. If any mismatches are found between the information you provide and your Department of Homeland Security or Social Security Administration records, Self Check will inform you of how to correct those mismatches.

USCIS is releasing the Self Check service in phases. At this point the service is offered only to users that maintain an address in Arizona, California, Colorado, the District of Colombia, Idaho, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Virginia, or Washington. The availability of Self Check will be limited for the initial launch as the service is tested and improved upon based on the outcomes of the initial implementation.

Two things that are immediately apparent. The SSA doesn't say that if there is a mismatch, that you aren't eligible- it says Self Check will inform you how to correct those mismatches. And low and behold- what you posted is a notice of mismatch.

Secondly- note that Illinois is not covered in the States that Self Check is offered- Barack Obama's official address. What address did Birthers use for Obama? We don't know. It won't work if you try to put in Illiniois. Did they use a valid address for Obama- we don't know- because the Birthers havent' shared that information.

So what does the SSA say if a person checks on themselves and gets a mismatch?

Q : I received a Social Security Administration (SSA) mismatch, what should I do?

You are not required to take any further action after receiving a mismatch from Self Check.

If you wish to resolve an SSA mismatch, you would need to visit an SSA office. The guidance titled “Notice of Mismatch” provides a set of detailed steps on how to do so.

Note- once more- SSA doesn't say that a mismatch says you can't be employed- it doesn't even say you need to resolve a mismatch.

What does Dutch say it means? " our affirmative action president is not able to pass a simple e-verify check like the rest of the illegal aliens, and thus should not be able to be employed in the USA"

Odd- why would Dutch's statement be so at odds with the Social Security's actual instructions. Perhaps we should go read more from the SSA's website

"Notice of a mismatch in your SSA or DHS records does not necessarily mean that you do not have work authorized status."

Wait a minute- Dutch just said the opposite of what the SSA's own website says! The SSA says that a mismatch does not necessarily mean you can't work legally- but Dutch said....well what Dutch always says.

What else does SSA say?

Q : What is identity assurance and why does Self Check use it?

Self Check uses an identity assurance process to make sure that an individual is able to perform an employment eligibility check only on him or herself. Because Self Check is providing information about a person’s government records, it is very important that we defend against misuse of the service.

Q : Can I use Self Check to verify someone else's eligibility for employment?

No. Self Check is intended only for users to verify their own employment eligibility. The Self Check service includes an identity assurance feature designed to prevent users from verifying the eligibility of others.

Wait- So some Birther had to lie to the SSA, and break the law- if they actually accessed this, rather than just generated it in Photoshop?

So think about this- a Birther either had to lie in order to access the Social Security self-verify- in order to find out that there is a mismatch- that the SSA itself says does not mean that a person is not eligible or a Birther is lieing about the very document that Dutch has posted.

Either way- a Birther is lieing.

Either way- the Social Security self e-verify doesn't say that Barack Obama can't be employed.

Either way....Birthers are lieing.

Again.

 

Sure you do- you trust Birthers blogs, or anyone who makes any wild claim against Obama.

 

Do you have evidence that Obama ever bothered with "e-verify", or is it only the conspiracy lunatics who are boring themselves with such nonsense?

 

Arrant rubbish! How many times has your 'irrefutable' evidence been laughed out of court so far? Why don't you tell us. Birthers have nothing; never did and never will-except for the bigotry, hatred and disbelief that a *gasp*, educated, urbane and intelligent black man is your president. That, my friend, is the nasty, smelly skid-mark of truth in the grubby underpants of puerile birther stupidity .

 

Impressive.

 

lol pretty funny coming from a history like u.k. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/19/race.uselections2008 i'm still trying to remember how many black kings and queens you've had going back. as seinfeld said if you like the person it's not racism.

we don't stereo type and we don't laugh cases out of court. if you think people are going to stop asking questions about obam's past you're nuts. we don't just scare off because people call us racist, if anything it's a bolster.

i think if edison used your strategy, we'd be in the dark. isn't the pub open yet ??

 

What? Ok, so tell us where your latest brainwave is taking this argument. I can't wait...

 

typical obot. taking a nice phrase like "not necessarily" and changing it to "couldn't possibly". i wonder if this was added during the obama administration.

 

i just did, are you drunk already ?

 

Obama? Obama would not go near e-verify with a ten foot pole... some other citizen had to pretend to be Obama (while yes, most likely breaking the law) to generate a record. So now what? Are you going to work yourself into a frenzy over that, and not the fact Obama is not able to pass e-verify check? Yeap, that's what you'll do

 

A beautiful wall of text as always, JEFF - the Center does not pay you for nothing. However, in the end even you do not outright deny the possibility the document may be real, instead concentrating on splaining why Obama's e-verify check is pulled out for discrepancy. Very good JEFF, at least we're in agreement Obama's life is full of discrepancies

 

Well, seeing as we didn't have anything like a substantial black population until the 1950s I'd say your argument is pretty stupid, actually. Do you know why we have a black minority? I'll tell you; because of the labour shortage in post-war Britain we went to the West Indies to recruit labour.

Of course cases get laughed out of court-you do understand what 'frivolous' means, don't you? http://www.examiner.com/legal-news-...rivolous-lawsuit-over-obama-birth-certificate

 

drunko, you think this is over ?. that's what the obots do. they keep saying it's been decided, it's over... lunatic. watergate. i've forgotten if u.k. has ever had corruption or not in government.

 

Funny how thatis the only thing that you took out of it.

Because what I took out of it is that Birthers lie.

They lie about e-verify. They lie to the government. They lie here on the boards.

And I pointed out those lies.

So one more time- per the SSA's own website- a mismatch is a mismatch- nothing more- the SSA doesn't even recommend a person resolve the mismatch- that is how trivial SSA considers a mismatch.

But to Birthers- Birthers who lied to the SSA or lied to us about contacting the SSA- a mismatch is a clear sign of the Konspiracy.

 

Wash....you seem to be following a pattern. When a Canadian poster confronted you with facts, you attacked Canada. When a Brit confronted you with facts, you attack the UK.

And you have a real problem with Obama's father being a Kenyan.

Maybe it isn't racism but pure xenophobia.

I bet that can be treated.

 

you capitalize birther, thank you sfjeff, good morning, raining in the city ??

how many ss #'s does the 0bama have ?

so you're saying the number passes e verify ?

 

No- what I am saying is that Birthers are lieing.

Dutch posted a image purporting to be a e-verify self check for Barack Obama. According to Dutch this proves that Obama couldn't even be hired in the United States.

What I showed was that Birthers lie.

If the image is real, a Birther committed fraud, and identity theft to obtain the image. Or a Birther is lieing about the image- either way a Birther lied.

And if the image is real, as per the Social Security Administration, the mismatch issue is so trivial, that the SSA doesn't even require the person to fix it- or even recommend that they fix it. It doesn't say that Barack Obama is not eligible to work in the U.S. as Dutch claims.

It doesn't say that Obama's social security number is invalid- as you have claimed.

The most likely answer is that the Birther who lied to the SSA failed because Barack Obama doesn't have a legal residence in a state the self e-verify covers.

But what we mostly have learned is that Birthers are lieing.

Again.