Latest Polling Numbers And It doesn't Look Good for Biden

Former Clinton pollster Mark Penn said on "America's Newsroom" Monday that a new poll showing President Biden with just 36% approval will "send shockwaves" through the White House and Democratic Party. The CEO of Stagwell Group said Biden's "rushed" re-election announcement was a mistake, as former President Trump leads Biden by six points and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis leads Biden by five in a new Washington Post/ABC poll.

MARK PENN: When he drops here from 42 to 36 in approval in this poll, that's all Democrats who are jumping ship and saying, I don't approve of the presidency he's doing. And I think we've seen for a long time. Look, the Harris polling showed the same thing for a long time. People question his fitness for continued office. Most Democrats didn't want him to run. But this poll has to send shockwaves. He just announced for presidency. You're supposed to go up when you announce, not down.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ahead-this-is-a-potential-titanic/ar-AA1aUjbD

Both Trump and DeSantis are beating Biden by 7 points.

 

It says a lot when democrats lose black voters. After seeing this poll, I can easily see Biden spending hundreds of billions of our tax money on them so they’ll vote for him, maybe even offer up nationwide reparations.

Biden bleeding support with Black voters as 2024 campaign heats up: poll
Just over half of Black voters said they'd likely support Biden in 2024


President Biden is bleeding support with Black voters heading into the 2024 campaign season, according to a recent poll.

While the president maintains Black voter support, it has sharply declined since taking office and comes with much less enthusiasm. According to the Associated Press, around 58 percent approve of his job handling. Just 41 percent of Black adults said they wanted Biden to run for a second term, while only 55 percent said they would likely support him in the general election.

These figures starkly contrast with his first few months in office, when 9 out of 10 Black voters approved of the job he was doing. They also fall well below Democrats' overall sentiment, which showed that 81 percent would "definitely" or "probably" support Biden if he were the nominee.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-bleeding-support-black-voters-2024-campaign-heats-up-poll

 

At this time the DNC is not going to re-reun Biden. They are not that stupid and they want to hold on to their power. They can see the handwriting on the wall (ie the polls). But Biden has been told to say he is running for a second term -- naturally. He can't say otherwise and remain a presidential figure and keep his handlers in power. Towards the end Biden will hide out and ride out most of his term, then probably resign "due to health" so he won't suffer a loss and an embarrassment. But during that time it will be a wide open dem convention. Right now it looks like declared contender Kennedy is in it to win it. He knows how to campaign, plays to the lower class and the middle class at the same time, and has name recognition.

 

That’s all well and good this far out. But what neither party is paying any attention to is that most Americans don’t want a Trump vs. Biden rematch. Only 29% want Biden to run again, 56% do not. Question 11. Trump isn’t much better, 33% want him to run again, 53% don’t. Question 13.


https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/qsy7ekuxik/econTabReport.pdf


The fact a Trump vs. Biden rematch seems inevitable, that tells me that neither major party gives an owl’s hoot what most Americans think, want or wish for. That both major parties are full of themselves, only giving a coyote’s howl about what their own little quarter of the population want, think and wish for, better know as their party’s base. I suppose in our two party monopoly that we call our electoral system, nominating candidates that most voters view in a positive light is irrelevant. Nominating who most don’t want, becomes each major party’s mission, goal, objective.

 

You're missing the point here. Trump is where he is not because the Republican party leadership wants him to be, he is there because that leadership, mostly neocon broke faith with the party's base and that base is increasingly restive under their leadership. Trump won the first time around not because of who and what he was but because of who he was not.

 

I see Trump as an egotistical fighter. Someone who takes no lip. This is what folks who support him love. What I don’t and never have seen is a man who has a political ideology or philosophy of his own. The 7-time party switcher has adopted the political philosophy of whatever party he belonged to at the time. I see a Republican Party, Trump supporters of having thrown traditional conservative values and ideology out of the window to follow a man devoid of a political philosophy. A party that believes in or supports a man, a fighter, but not conservatism. This is the GOP of today.


Trump isn’t a loyal Republican, he’s loyal only to himself. He’s thrown way too many fellow republicans under the bus. Trump has campaign and tried to defeat more Republicans than he has Democrats. He might win again, but it won’t be because most Americans want him back. They don’t. Which is a flaw in how we selected our candidates. If all Americans were involved in the selection of candidates, Trump nor Biden would be running in 2024. Heck, Trump nor Clinton would have run in 2016.


What you have today is roughly a quarter of all Americans wanting Trump to become the next president, a quarter wanting Biden with over half wanting neither one. Yet, we’ll end up with a president that approximately 60% of all Americans don’t want, don’t trust, dislike. This is why both major parties are shrinking, independents have risen if Gallup is correct from 30% of the electorate in 2006 to 49% today. The Democrats have fallen from 35% down to 25% and the GOP from 30% down to 25%. But it is what it is. In our two-party system, our two-party monopoly, we’ll see more bottom of the barrel dregs being nominated because they can. But they’ll lack public support when it comes time to govern.

 

Not sure about the "shockwave" since his numbers have not changed a whole lot. As for the announcement, I think its fake. He wants GOP to think he is running, because if he said he is not running, he'd be a lame duck already by now. IOW, I do not think he will run next year.

 

Define traditional conservative values. I see Trump as having embraced them and Neocons having largely abandoned them or worse.

 

FAKE! Don't believe the numbers! The left is fudging these numbers on purpose so the right gets complacent.

 

I remember when all the polls said Clinton was a lock. How'd that turn out her? I would love to have seen the look of shock on her face seeing it all slip away from her..hahaha. Anyway, my point is often times polls mean jack crap.

 

IMO Trump doesn't have a chance of beating any democrat in 2024.

 

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 despite the fact that the Democrats nominated the worst possible candidate. Trump won in the Electoral College because small, rural states outnumber larger industrialized states. Farmers and rural shopkeepers with limited education adore Trump.

"President Trump famously declared during his 2016 campaign that he loved the “poorly educated” because voters with lower levels of schooling delivered an overwhelming share of votes to him," the conservative Washington Times.

Democrats are praying that Trump is the Republican nominee.

 

Hillary won the popular vote entirely because of California. She lost 86% of counties more than thirty of fifty states. So basically the electoral college did precisely what it is supposed to do and prevent and handful of big cities from determining who runs the country.

 

PREDICTION

Joe Biden will not be the Democrat Party nominee in 2024. There will be a “Lyndon Johnson moment” when he announces that he will not be a candidate. He will be knocked out in the primaries, probably by Gavin Newsom, or his handlers will cut a deal when he is implicated in Hunter’s business activities.

 

Is the level of support for trump because he is that good, or is the other party that bad?

 

He will be impeached before the year is out - that will lower his poor poll #s even more, so the pressure will grow. I still believe that non-partisans will blame Biden more than McCarthy et al for the debt ceiling not getting raised and the disaster that ensues

I do not like Newsom in the least

 

From 40% down to 36% in a short time? Will the DNC select their candidate at the very last minute expecting their voters to just vote for that person? How authoritarian.

 

I don’t like Newsom either. California is a disaster because of him.

Impeachment is not removal from office. It is only an indictment. The Senate has to convict him. All the Democrats will vote to acquit. Republicans, like Mitt Romney and the idiot from Louisiana will join them.

 

Oh I know - but it will decrease his low approval #s even further

 

And in polls that generally heavily favor democrat incumbents. The really scary thing for Dems is that Joe is hemorrhaging black voters at an alarming rate. The Dems need 60 + percent of latinos and 85% + of the black vote to win elections and joes support is down by more than 30 points. Even with Joe lying hourly about his segregationist past, apparently leaving black criminals on the streets isn't selling well with the over whelming number of black folks who aren't career criminals and turning Latino neighborhoods into killing fields for Mexican cartels isn't garnering very many votes either.

 

Exactly

Did someone say that would be the case?

 

The small rural states, the farmers and rural shopkeepers with limited education spend their time working every day, pay their taxes, support the military, and obey the laws. They are the ones who make our country great. The larger industralized states spend their time worrying about the correct pronouns, keeping the southern border open for potential voters and illegal drugs, killing babies, handouts to non-working minorities, staging demonstrations, outlawing gun ownership, reducing the police force and the military force.

 

Inflation: Consumer prices in April rise at slowest annual rate in 2 years

 

I agree in that I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell that Democrats will ultimately let him run next year. The man is clearly far too feeble/cognitively compromised for the job and would be unlikely to win re-election as a result. However, unlike you, I am not so sure that he knows that yet.

 

He knows. How they will handle him stepping out remains to be seen, but I'm guess he will say its due to doctors recommendation.