Latest Polling Numbers And It doesn't Look Good for Biden

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  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whether he knows or not is clearly just an opinion and there is no sense in continuing to argue that opinion.

    I agree that a sudden "health" issue will precede his withdrawal.
     
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    I predict that Biden will withdraw from the race by the fall. The primary reason might and should be because of his age and health. A secondary reason could be because he has been caught in a major bribery scandal.

    Hillary Clinton was taking money, mostly from domestic sources, in exchange for government favors. The Biden crime family has been taking money from foreign sources in exchange for perceived or real preferential treatment. That smacks of traitorous activity and is far worse.
     
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    They could potentially use a scandal to get him out.

    I would tend to think that it will be later than the fall. If he withdraws in the fall they would have to have a legitimate primary to see who won, and with the nutbags currently creating the energy in the primaries that wanted Bernie, Mayor Pete, Elizabeth Warren etc, they would rather circumvent them and just have a later replacement that the party chooses based on electability. On that basis, I would predict that he withdraws the summer of 24 probably right before the convention when it is clearly too late to hold primary elections.

    Come to think of it, I would not be surprised if they replace Kamala early in the process, and that new person would ultimately be the one they plan to install as the top of the ticket just prior to the convention. It would be easy to then just resort to the Vice President candidate at the last minute. If they do not replace Kamala, she would have a legitimate claim to being the nominee.
     
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    But aren't Bernie, Mayor Pete and "Pocahontas Lizzie" the heart and soul of the Democrat Party? Who has good sense in that party who has the stature to be a presidential candidate? None of those three should be electable, but a lot of the American people think that the government should give them a living these days.
     
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    They are the heart and soul of the activist wing of their party, but whatever faction that inserted practicality into the process and basically installed Biden as their nominee despite no one actually liking him the last time, I suspect will appear once more.

    I agree they have a very weak bench, but surely there are options far more appealing than the current doddering, confused old man who very possibly will not live through the next term. They will find someone they can package as a legitimate candidate, especially considering that candidate will not have to go through the primaries to appease and appeal to the loonies, and will therefore be able to misrepresent themselves as a moderate because they did not have to appeal to the loonies in the primary process.
     
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    This sounds like the Democrat Party from 1944 which dumped far left loon, Henry Wallace, for the far more practical Harry Truman. I don't think the practical people exist in the Democrat Party any more. If they did, they would have been more like Joe Mansion, who caved eventually.

    The Democrats turned to Biden because they couldn't stomach Bernie Sanders, who isn't even a true Democrat. He won't join the party after the presidential primaries and insists on being an "Independent" communist. Biden looked like a moderate, but I didn't miss the remark he made during the 2020 campaign when he said that "He would be the most progressive president in history." That is one campaign promise he has kept. As a puppet, Biden has been for more radical than Obama ever dreamed he could be.
     
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    Its true that they don't have anyone who sticks out as a good candidate.

    Manchin? Maybe. Beto? I don't think so. Newsom? I don't think so. Tulsi? She is now independent, but can still run as Dem.

    Both sides lack a star, but GOP does have some moderate/conservative candidates who would be just fine in the WH (Romney, Rubio, Cheney even Rand Paul), its just that the populist wing-nuts are making all the noise at this time.
     
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    Duplicate post
     
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    Romney - Dead within the party. I worked in the Florida heat for him 2012, and then he turned into fool. He won't run for his Senate seat again because the Republicans in Utah hate him. I'll bet you voted for Obama in 2012.

    Rubio - You're from Florida, right? I bet you didn't vote for him for the Senate. He was ready to quit politics, but Trump urged him to come back to hold the Senate seat. I don't think he wants the humiliation of running against Trump again with Trump's name calling, "Little Marco."

    Cheney - Are you kidding me? She's an establishment do nothing Republican like the Bush family of RINOs who supported Hillary Clinton. If the Bushes had any integrity, they would have sat out campaign rather than support a crook like Hillary. But they didn't. If you don't like Trump, I understand, but you don't support Hillary Clinton.

    Rand Paul - Yes, I could support him, but he lost in 2020 and probably won't be back. I bet you wouldn't vote for him either.

    Mansion? The Democrats hate him as much as the Republicans dislike Romney and Liz Cheney. He was a torn in their side when they wanted the $7 trillion "Build Back Better" bill that would have sent inflation to Pluto.

    Beto? Are you morbid? The guy is a complete idiot and loser. After he gave up his House seat in the Austin area in Texas, he's not won another election. The guy is a complete airhead. He can get on his skateboard and keep on going. He and AOC could make beautiful children together ... for the nut house.

    Newsom? Have you looked at what he has done to California? As one person said this week, Los Angels looks like a third world country. But, he looks like he just stepped out of central casting in Hollywood. Newsom is the candidate I fear the most.

    Trulsi? Like Romney and Cheney, she is a politician without a party. She has alienated the Democrats and wouldn't become a moderate voice within the Republican Party. She has no base and no support.
     
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    Dont get me wrong, I am not saying they will install a moderate. I am saying they will install someone that will PRETEND to be a moderate, and they will be able to do so because that person will have not had to go through the primary process and openly make promises to the loons.
     
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    Yes, PRETEND is operative word. Once they are in, they will be just as progressive as Biden. Any Democrat president who would buck the radicals in the party would rate a new chapter in Profiles in Courage.
     
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    I flat out said "I don't think so" about Beto and Newsom, so where's the beef?

    As for the Republicans and Manchin, I think they would have plenty of support from moderate Repubs/Dems and Independents. You don't have to like them, but you only have one vote.
     
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    Biden's crazed shrieking in response for some sensible spending restraint by the Federal government isn't helping his approval numbers.

    PARASITES DEMAND CONTINUED ACCESS TO BLOODSTREAM: Government employees union sues to strike down US debt limit as default looms. “A union for U.S. federal government employees filed a lawsuit on Monday claiming a law setting a $31.4 trillion debt ceiling is unconstitutional as political leaders seek to avoid a historic default expected as soon as next month.”

    If Americans wanted unrestrained spending by Biden, they would be supporting Biden's "plan" of increased spending without restraint, more. Biden's poor polling numbers reflect his complete lack of desire look at how his actions affect the American People.

    The great majority of the American People rightly hold Biden in low regard. And this seems to be carrying over to Democrats in Congress. The Generic Ballot poll continues to show the GOP +3 that cost Dems to lose 9 seats and by 3,000,000 votes to the GOP.

    Dems in Congress should probably adopt McCarthy's friendly reasonable approach, and for President, they really should take another look at RFK.

    No wonder Americans reject Biden: PERSONNEL IS POLICY: Biden Taps Economist Who Bemoaned Gas Prices ‘Too Damn Low.’ 'Making the lives of ordinary people worse isn’t collateral damage, it’s a goal.'

    https://instapundit.com/583642/

    It's like Biden holds us our struggles in complete disdain.
     
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    If Mansion was going to change parties, he should have done it in 2021 before Biden got his "Build Back Better" plan became public. That would have probably saved his Senate seat in West Virginia. Now, I understand that he is in big trouble. The very popular Republican governor of the state has announced that he will oppose him for re-election.

    At any rate, professional politicians who change parties, don't have much chance in presidential politics. Ronald Reagan did it, but that was when he was still an actor and president of the Screen Actor Guild.
     
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    I have a different take. Biden has served his purpose. He has gotten the big government ball rolling, but now that it's going, the people a blaming him, not his ideas.

    In the average beer and pot fogged mind, all we need to do is get a new and improved Biden who will expand the welfare state. The "Build Back Better" plan will "work," and everybody will be rich and happy without work.

    And all of the African-Americans will get reparations which will make all of them multi-millionaires. Of course by then, a million bucks will be what $100 was a decade before, so they will have gotten nowhere.
     
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    I do not believe that the vast majority of the American People think that way. I think we want a fair shake, not a free ride. Lost of confidence in our experiment in self-government, imo, is a step on the road toward supporting tyranny.
     
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    It’s also been said that when a democracy can vote for free stuff, it can be fatal to the system. With the Democrats doing all they can to kill the American dream with taxes, debt, inflation and regulations, free stuff looks better. The 2022 elections were a disappointing eye opener. The Democrats can close to retaining control and proceeding unimpeded to their goal.

    The voters in Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania voted to give Joe Biden the keys to the liquor cabinet and Corvette, despite the fact that he’s unpopular.
     
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    The fact Biden doesn't recognize he's mentally impaired is all the proof I need that he is.
     
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    We won by 3,000,000 votes and 9 seats.
    We have the exact same margin of +9 that Pelosi had after the Rigged 2020 election. The House, this year has been extremely productive, passing nearly three times the number of bills that the disorganized Senate has (outside of commemorations).
    He's more unpopular now, but, PA will likely be the gateway to the presidency.

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    We will need to take ONE OF PA, MI, WI, while Dems will need to take all 3 of PA, MI, WI.

    Hang in there, the future is always uncertain, so courage or fear are a choice.
     
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    I hope you are correct, @Zorro.
     
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