Let’s define drag

But you do have to be omnipotent to "know" how prevalent something is without actually knowing.

Yes, my thoughts exactly.

You're not making any sense here. You asked me what was important about kids seeing drag shows and I directly answered that question when I said "It's not important, I couldn't care less if a child ever saw a drag show. ".

That's not "I don't know". Not only does it directly answer your question, it also tells you that I have no skin in this game. I've never been to a drag show, never had the desire to go to one, and don't foresee that changing. I also don't know any drag queens. If by magic, drag shows were blinked out of existence, I doubt I'd even notice and I have no doubt that I wouldn't care. YOU'RE the one that seems to have far more invested in this than I do. Did a drag queen wrong you at some point?

 

I remember when I was going to an extremely conservative school. My sister got sent home for dressing as Charlie Chaplin for Halloween. No, they hadn't mistaken her for Hitler. They said that cross-dressing was punishable by expulsion, even at Halloween. Funny how none of that applied to our football team when they dressed up as cheerleaders . . . including one guy who was in the same exact class as my sister when she was sent to the office for this. There's nothing more "woke," "snowflake," "cancel culture," and "virtue signaling" than social conservatives.

 

I never claimed to know the prevalence I just saw behavior it didn't turn my brain off for politics.

I don't know where you get this idea that things that are wrong are okay if they only happen a couple times

did why did you type that bloviating nonsense. Now you almost fell asleep halfway through the first students I can't imagine having to type that crap out.

so laws banning it are perfectly fine since it's not important?

Fair enough I misunderstood.

If it started important that you have no problem betting it for kids under a certain age right?

 

I don't have that idea. My point is that it's an awful slippery slope demonizing an entire category over rare occurrences. That's why this is an outrage snack-pack. You don't even have to care how often this happens and restrict your criticism to only those occurrences, you can just see "drag queen" and instantly condemn all of dragdom in total because you already have a bias against drag. You're here often enough, you've seen people on both sides do this kind of moronic bullcrap.

Another slippery slope. You sure you want this to be the way things are judged? It's going to work out against you as much as it does for you.

Drag shows intended for children that include raunchy adult dancing, sure. A drag show where it's just men dressed as women, no.

 

then quit making straw man fallacies where you tell me I said something I didn't say

I thought you said it wasn't important for drag queens to perform in front of children.

What difference does it make if they don't get to Because of You bad apples spoil the bunch?

but you said it wasn't important why is it now all of a sudden so important that we don't just stop the behavior?

I don't mind if I'm banned from shaking my rump in a 7 year olds face. That's not how I get my jollies and it's not something I ever thought I would be doing.

So what's going to come back on me? Or are you trying to make this into an LGBT thing?

That's not a drag show. That's just a cross dressing fashion show or something. I don't take issue with crossdressing. I take issue with the man shaking his rump in a 7-year-old's face.

 

Doesn't really matter how you define drag but when you start having drag shows with children present, there are much sexual connotations going on at the same time. It's more than just people dressing up as the opposite sex.

 

Drag shows for adults are perfectly fine. It is straightforward entertainment, and an adult can decide for themselves whether they want to attend.

Drag shows for children in a public school are not perfectly fine. Why do you keep trying to blur the line between the two? It does not matter how the "vast majority" of those shows happen. The only thing in this context that matters are the drag shows aimed at schoolchildren.

 

Yes... Democrats and gun control laws...

 

The ultimate drag, the music group called the Village People, and everyone singing "YMCA."

 

Huh?

How are you possibly rationalizing that the Village People are in drag?

 

Sooooo - I still ask for a definition. What is the essential difference between say a tartan skirt and a kilt? What is the essential difference between a Sulu and a skirt? And don’t even go there with the poor bloke in the traditional Greek army uniform because it has a skirt not unlike a tutu and Pom-poms on the shoes

 

Based on?

 

If you believe a skirt makes someone a drag queen then you have no clue what a drag queen is. Please read a definition and try again. In any event a kilt is traditionally worn by men in certain cultures. So the man isn't imitating anything if they're wearing one.

 

The way they represent themselves.

 

Are you sure you are not thinking of a strip show? BTW why is it OK for kids to see a strip shoe but not a drag show?

 

Are there? Have you put meters on all the audience to measure arousal? Exactlyhow much effect would one drag show have on kids given the daily exposure to sexualisation from the advertising industry?

 

This is not about MY definition but what those supporting the legislation in place like Tennessee believe. If we are to start banning something first we must define what that something is. Let’s say the local Geek club decided to dress in their “traditional” outfits and do a Zorba dance down the road how are the police to know that they are not drag queens?

 

What does it matter what you call it doing it in front of kids is inappropriate.

 

Then why is the legislation not including strip shows and other shows that blatantly sexualise women in particular I.e. Hooters where women are definitely sexualised

 

Probably because people don't call them that they call them drag shows.

If you can find a Hooters waitress shaking her rump in a 7 year old's face I would be absolutely against that.

You should talk about the toddler beauty pageants cuz that's something people do that I find very disturbing.

 

Does this mean that you plan a campaign to end cars on the roads because of the occasional reckless driver?

 

No but I think it's good that we write tickets for reckless driving and not just let it happen.

 

Toddler “beauty pageants are only the tip of a massive iceberg that is the constant sexualisation of children by the media

https://childrenandmedia.org.au/tak...sexualisation-of-children-in-and-by-the-media

Note that as usual the Aus govt seems to be able to identify REAL issues and lay out if not fully effective plans at least some strategies

 

This is also a very important watch

 

Not a good choice. People wearing those traditional Greek outfits have issues and probably shouldn't be on the streets. Seriously, pompoms on your shoes? Even the USC cheerleaders wouldn't do that. A trip to a clinic, which would also be appropriate for someone in drag exposing themselves to children, is the way to go. There are appropriate places and inappropriate places for just about any activity. Like firing up a Weber upwind of a hunger strike, not illegal but should be dragged away. "Officer! They broke my kettle" "Let's have a look, Oh, here's your problem. This leg was bent, probably when you put it in your trunk, and the weight of all that meat caused it to collapse. I'm going to have to write you up a ticket for the improper use of burning charcoal in an unsafe container. Have a nice day!"