Let’s define drag

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    agreed it's mega creepy and I do think it's worse than drag queen story hour is there four apartments because it makes the child the sex object.

    You will get absolutely no disagreement from me on this one

    Glad to hear it
     
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    Because the Village People looked so straight
     
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    No it does not and you have not proven that plus “grooming”is something that happens over a period of time in a one on one with the groomer not at a group audience with the parents present

    https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents/issues-and-advice/grooming-or-unwanted-contact

    This is a waaaaaaaay bigger problem than a drag Queen story hour and what are Republicans doing about it in America?
     
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    This is how you define it...

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    Why they're attacking drag queens who themselves are abhorred by such behavior.
     
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    Yet another GOP rep in drag
     
  9. Polydectes

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    so you're going to tell me what I think based on not making a lot of posts about something off subject in a thread about drag queens.

    You can't even agree when you're in agreement.
    prove that you can't do it in a group with the parents present.

    Start a thread about it. Do you know for a fact that the Republicans aren't doing a thing about it if so prove it.
     
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    Who cares? There's nothing wrong with drag. As long as you're not shaking your rump in a 7 year olds face
     
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    I have posted the links over and over and over again
     
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    Right - so who is actually doing that and is it worse than a seven year old watching a striptease?
     
  13. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I didn't ask if you can go on a scavenger hunt on the internet and find Cherry picked things that you agree with.
     
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    I would be absolutely against someone doing a striptease for a 7-year-old is these things don't happen in the context of public schools because for those things at least people have sense.
     
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    Why has the right become so adamant about proving negatives? An impossible act.
    You don't here this is court "Your Honor! The prosecution has not proven my client wasn't having a psychotic session when he committed the crime! You must throw this case out!" Why not? Because when the judge reclaims it's composure it will state "Have you provided any evidence that your client did have a psychotic session? They didn't prove your client didn't jump over the moon either can you provide proof that he did?"
     
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    I don't have a problem with a drag show in a school if there's no adult content that's part of the show. Hell I grew up watching Bugs Bunny in drag and there was nothing sexual or damaging about it.

    In other words, drag itself is not evil or bad or going to warp the minds of our children. This is an outrage snack-pack.

    You show me a school having a drag show with adult dancing or other adult material, I'll join you in condemning it.
     
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    I believe the sole reason that drag queens and school children is a thing is beyond any shadow of a doubt for grooming purposes. Not necessarily grooming in terms of trying to attract adherents, but rather grooming kids to accept this abnormality as normal.

    I do not personally think that pushing their agenda is a proper use of public schools. I am not going to some extreme and claiming this will turn kids gay, but I most certainly think that pushing their agenda is not something that schools should do. For that matter, I am not even sure that being a drag queen automatically means someone is gay or trans. I think it just means they are cross-dressers, which in the absence of being trans, is in fact a sexual perversion. I would be similarly opposed to the BDSM community coming into schools wearing a ball gag, even IF their show was not "sexual" in nature. I am sure that both the cross-dressers and the BDSM folks are all fine people. That much is beside the point.

    I do not personally want my young child to aspire to be a drag queen. That is not to say I think it will turn them into a drag queen any more than wanting to be a fireman means they will be one. There are just many different types of people that I would be perfectly fine for my children to emulate as a goal in life (including a fireman), a drag queen is not one of them. If as adults they decide to do so that is perfectly fine, but I am not trying to encourage them down that path. For some odd reason, this is apparently a controversial position.

    The fact that Bugs Bunny dressed up as a female with voluptuous lips and a buxom exaggerated female butt as an opera singer in a musical montage, or the 3 stooges dressed as women to get away from their pursuers, could not possibly be more irrelevant to this topic.
     
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    There have been enough true life events which clearly show that in those drag shows, there are many things going on that children should not be witnessing. Probably doesn't happen all the time but there should be limits, don't you agree?
     
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    The Tennessee law is about "adult cabaret performances" on public property or such performances for children. Clearly, you don't believe that a man wearing a kilt is an "adult cabaret performance." This is about YOUR definitions because the actual definitions completely negate your entire premise. We are only debating your warped interpretation of words because the reality is very far from anything you describe.
     
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    Why does it need to be "Defined" in 2023 being how long its been around for?
    Comparing Scottish men in kilts is pretty sad IMO. That is not considered feminine attire over there. Can you say DESPERATION???
    Drag Queen shows come in all varieties. Some are almost like Burlesque. Some are like Disney. There is no right or wrong but when it comes to CHILDREN, keep the 1st kind the hell away from them!
    Why is this LOGICAL POINT not something we cal ALL agree on??
     
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    It could be either, depending on the nuances of your definition, and any extra information available.
     
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    "What exactly IS “drag”?

    If you're in Texas, you better figure it out.

    Texas Senate Passes Bills Banning Child Gender Modification And Drag Shows For Kids
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    'SB 14 prohibits health care providers from performing sex change surgeries or prescribing puberty blockers to minors unless medically necessary...'

    No fad gender destruction of children in Texas.

    EMPOWER PARENTS, PROTECT KIDS

    'The legislation is part of a nationwide push by conservatives to give power back to parents and protect children from sexualization.'

    'SB 14, sponsored by Sen. Donna Campbell (R), who is a medical doctor, would end gender modification in Texas. It passed the Senate.'

    'The amendment would have grandfathered non-surgical gender modification for children who started treatment 90 days before the bill would become law. SB 14 prohibits health care providers from performing sex change surgeries or prescribing puberty blockers to minors unless medically necessary. Doctors would lose their medical licenses should they break the law under the bill.'

    ANY DOCTOR THAT DOES THAT TO A CHILD WHEN IT'S NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY SHOULD GET A LOT MORE PUNISHMENT THAN THAT.

    'Additionally, SB 14 prohibits public money from being used or distributed to providers, medical schools, hospitals, or physicians who provide these surgeries or drugs.'

    GOOD.

    'SB 12, which would ban drag shows in front of children, was sponsored by Sen. Bryan Hughes (R) and his companion bill SB 1601 would halt Drag Queen Story Hours by defunding municipal libraries that host them.'

    GOOD.

    'SB 12 would ban male performers exhibiting as a female, or female performers exhibiting as a male who use “clothing, makeup, or other similar physical markers and who sings, lip syncs, dances, or otherwise, performs before an audience,” appealing to prurient sexual interests.'

    NO ADULT SEX SHOWS FOR CHILDREN

    'It would make sexually oriented performances on public property, a business, or in front of children illegal. Breaking the law could result in a Class A misdemeanor with a fine of up to $10,000.'

    '“As Lt. Governor, I believe the practice of child gender modification is abhorrent and must be stopped in Texas,” Patrick wrote. Patrick attributed the drag queen legislation as a way to stop radical left-wing attempts to sexualize children. “Children, who cannot make decisions on their own, must be protected from these sexually-oriented drag shows now occurring more and more in front of them,”'
     
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    Then don't make it about drag. Man it about sick men. I have never seen nor heard of a drag queen doing anything sexual in front of a kid. Entertaining or amusing sure but not sexual. Now sick "straight" men sure, plenty of that.
     
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    I didn't I wasn't the one that called it a drag show.
    I'm sorry for your ignorance I've seen videos of it.
    Do you think drag is an orientation? Or that drag queens can't be straight?
     
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    Your kid is safer at a drag show than they are at church.
     

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