Let's put this myth to rest once and for all: The Republican Party is NOT the "pro-life" party.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    No, the term "Pro-Choice " is not an emotional hook, it is a statement of fact, Pro-Choicers believe in women being able to CHOOSE.....

    Anti-Choicers are exactly that, against women having the right to choose.

    "Pro-Life" is an emotional term since they aren't....


    Taking away women's human rights IS REPRESSING WOMEN.


    LOL, all your usual BC....
     
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    The theory is based on human neural brain waves, not cognition and memory.
     
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    Just stating the facts

    Killing unborn babies IS REPRESSING BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS.
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    WOWSER! YOU discovered that there are TWO sexes !!!! Congrats !! :)
     
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    Well at least you now admit the unborn baby is a human being.

    Yes it is a person, an individual human being.

    per·son
    /ˈpərs(ə)n/
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    noun
    1. 1.
      a human being regarded as an individual.

    Go learn the difference between a haploid cell and a diploid cell.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your excuse is that you don't know American politics. That would explain why you blindly repeat Republican talking points.

    This I believe. We have two parties. Democrats, who are at the center, and Republicans who are extreme right.

    Right! The difference is that Republicans have no intention to carry out their platform because they no longer NEED to. They know thy won't lose a single vote even if they stood in the middle of 5th Avenue and shot somebody. It doesn't work that well with Democrats, though.

    Great! But that's not "pro-life". Somebody who is pro-life would also support the baby's life AFTER it's born. The Republican Party, as the OP shows, does not!

    That's the point of this thread.

    What you're talking about are religious zealots who believe that women who have sex for any reason other than to procreate should be punished. And so should the child. Not the man involved, though, BTW.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please site your reference for that claim. Every pic or video I've seen of our border-crossing stations show people lining up to seek entry. They aren't just walking through a gate, ffs.

    Show your proof, or we can all assume your remarks are merely right wing rhetoric without facts to back them up.
     
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    You state that like it doesn't matter, that one party's ceaseless efforts are what's been preventing us from reforming our immigration laws and processes so that we don't have the issues we have now. Either you don't care, in which case I would ask why you're bothering to comment, or you're simply entering a juvenile reply because you can't refute the facts presented to you.
     
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    A few brain waves does not make it a thinking being.

    https://www.nsf.gov/news/mmg/mmg_disp.jsp?med_id=132246

    "While the human brain and nervous system are wired with hundreds of billions of nerve cells, or neurons, sea slugs can get by with tens of thousands."

    To simplify: while a developing fetus may show some brain activity, it is very little and very basic. There is no self-awareness, and no cognitive ability. If it did, we would all have memories of being in the womb.
     
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    How many of those are at official entry points?
    You are free to assume whatever you please.
     
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    "Reform immigration laws"? Are you kidding? Millions entering the country at will is "immigration reform"?
     
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    A thinking being is not the criteria either.
     
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    That definition is of a person not personhood.
     
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    I have no idea what this means.
     
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    That wa not the point of my post.
    PRO LIFE is pro all life.
    The title of this thread is "Republicans are not pro life ".
    I agree. They are not pro life. They are anti abortion, though that doesn't sound so morally and emotionally powerful.
    Republicans support killing animals and human beings. They are only "pro life" on one
    issue, which makes them a party of hypocrites.
     
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    Exactly. Reps are no more pro-life than dems are pro-choice. Each push their own brand of overreach and justify their hypocricy.
     
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    If "pro life" has to mean all life, why doesn't "pro choice" have to mean all choice. It makes little sense to generalize other beyond the abortion issue. Just because they are pro life about unborn doesn't mean they will oppose capital punishment of criminals. And just because they are pro choice about abortion doesn't mean they oppose all regulation restricting choices of human behavior.
     
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    Well said.
     
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    It is if you're assigning personhood to it.
     
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    Yes. Improve, update, streamline the processes for legal immigration. Add resources, and not just more border patrol officers, but more judges to review asylum requests, more facilities for those being held pending resolution, and so forth. Update the laws for temporary visas and for obtaining green cards. It shouldn't take more than two years to obtain citizenship. But every time there's a bill in congress to make some of those changes, the GOP says No.

    Do you have a link to your source for your claim of "Millions entering the country at will"? Thanks.
     
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    No, it is not.
     
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    Seems like a better solution would be to prevent illegal entry in the first place; ie strengthen border security. THEN maybe work on the process to allow LEGAL entry.
     
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    Before we even get to whether or not the Republican party is the "pro-life" party, we need to address the fact that Pro-Life as it exists in this country is only PRO life under a very specific set of circumstances.
     
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    How do you know if they are illegal until they arrive?
    And it doesn't depend on the mode of transport. Asylum seekers, a perfectly legal situation, have to be physiclcally in a country to claim asylum.
    Then their claim is processed.
     
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    Then it should be called the anti abortion party and be honest.
    But that wouldn't be quite so emotional.
     

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