Regarding POTUS Joe: My personal political strategy is to wait patiently until liberal policy-excesses lays upon the American electorate sufficient severity motivating them collectively to move back to the conservative right to correct the liberal policy excesses. Yes there is a human cost to this approach. However, there is no legal alternative. America is a democratic republic and the American electorate eventually get what they really and truly want. So? So if they want Joe and Joe's political policies, they must be willing to pay the price in terms of human suffering. America is a huge "army" and she can survive high numbers of "dead and wounded." So my position is to: Remain calm. Stay steady. And give Joe & Associates enough rope to hang themselves come next election. Again there is no legal alternative to the above strategy: Why not? Because the Conservatives (GOP) at the present time, are not in power and they have no national leader, right now, that is certain to win in 2024 And because the key for Conservatives to get political power and hold political power is for them to get huge blocks of Democrat voters to switch parties and VOTE GOP and only Joe and his party can convince the Democrats to switch and vote GOP in 2024 and in future mid-terms. So? So Joe is a very good ally of the GOP as long as Joe stays on his present course. JAG
Letting democrats destroy themselves sounds like a good idea, and in any normally functioning society they would have already met their demise, but there are problems with this notion. Liberals live and die by their emotions, there always has to be a cause associated with some sort of fear. Remember the rain forests, dolphins, whales, owls, lizards, fish and so on, bleeding hearts ate that up. But then the left came out with something they'll never top, the planet is going to die because of global warming and the hucksters rake in not only the cash, but the votes due to this insane fear. And then there are the victims. Here's a list off the top of my head who liberals say are victims of conservatives: blacks, browns, yellows, reds, Muslims, illegals, LGBTe+27squared, poor people, and anyone else they can convince are victims of conservatives/white people with their only salvation being voting for democrats and that salvation never comes. From what I see, liberals can be brainwashed very easily and it doesn't even take a generation. In fact, the brainwashing is so bad that they often take both sides of an argument without even knowing it, they just follow their orders. Here's an example: When debating poverty and welfare, the left will tell you that it's white people in conservative states who make up most of the poor people on welfare. But when it comes to getting a voter ID or even copying your existing ID, then it's black people who are too poor and can't afford to do that. There are many similar examples. The left knows that today's suffering will eventually become the norm, just like paying $600 a month for health insurance when it was $86 a month before Obamacare. For many people, paying that high amount is all they ever knew, and that's how the left boils the frog. And look at the last election, the left voted on their emotions rather than their best interests. You won't find a single positive story on this board about Biden, instead they're just glad the mean Tweets stopped even if it means the country gets flooded with illegals, they suffer insane inflation, can't buy the things they need all while their taxes go up. All this was predicted by a Russian defector in the 80s. He gave an interview detailing exactly how you change a culture and it begins with schools, publishers, the media, news outlets, and everyone else all pushing the same propaganda and right now the left is pushing very hard a socialist/communist agenda, just look at Sanders, AOC, and even Biden himself. So no, no matter how bad things get, democrats will always have someone to blame and that blame will be pointed at straight white Christian conservatives who are racists to the bone, and the left will eat it up as the last of their food disappears and Venezuela laughs at us.
For some odd reason I don't think that him supposedly being a "multi millionaire coal baron" is why you're pissed at him. I bet that if he had just gone along with your agenda then you wouldn't even mention "multi millionaire coal baron" and would be giving him handshakes and pats on the back.
Thanks for your comments. I thought you made some good points. Most all national elections in America have close margins of victory. The United States has two warring factions and its roughly 50-50. My view is its impossible to convince, with argumentation, that 50% of the country that votes for the Democrats ~ to STOP doing that and vote for the GOP. So? So I see no other option other than the proposition within my OP. You see even now some Democrats that are beginning to turn against Uncle Joe ~ Uncle Joe's poll numbers are falling. 'Course, I admit it could go like you said it could go. Only God knows. If we live, we will find out, relatively soon, what the American electorate will decide about Uncle Joe Best. JAG ``
Democrats are gonna vote Democrat, Republicans the same....let's see how that "army" of Independents feel in 2022 and 2024.
Plenty of Republicans on this forum could throw that kind of statement around here and have a logical debate about it... ...but not you. Your unconditional love for Trump completely disqualifies you on an emotional level.
lol, Joe won't destroy the dem party like Trump did the Republican party, wishful thinking by the right though
Agreed. One wonders if the excesses of the Far Left will turn off the moderate wing of the Donk Party and the Independents and cause them to abandon the Donk Party in droves? We have no other choice but to wait and see, like you said. Best JAG `
We are not happy. “Biden won unaffiliated voters by a 54% to 42% margin over Donald Trump last November, a turnaround from the 4-point margin of victory Trump enjoyed among that group four years earlier. Just 32% of independents approved of how Biden is handling his job while 60% disapprove in a new Quinnipiac University national poll. * An Associated Press/NORC national poll at the end of September showed Biden at just 38% approval among independents -- down a whopping 24 percentage points since just July. * Just 39% of independents approved of the job Biden is doing as president in a NPR/PBS/Marist College poll released last month.” https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/08/politics/joe-biden-independents-polling/index.html
The independents are going to vote against the crazy and the sycophancy. They want stability and rational thought. Each must pick their candidates carefully, if Joe runs again, he could win fairly. Trump would still have to cheat, which of course, is in the works.
Sure we can watch them self destruct but is our party making any progress by putting ALL our eggs in the Trump basket? The left doing a crappy job doesn’t equal the right doing anything great. Our party needs to start playing the race game as well.
Most all national elections in America have close margins of victory. The United States has two warring political factions and its roughly 50% Donk Party ~ 50% GOP. My view: Its impossible to convince, with argumentation, that 50% of the country that votes for the Democrats ~ to STOP doing that and vote for the GOP. So? So I see no other option other than the proposition within my OP. Wait for Uncle Joe to destroy the Donk Party ~ “destroy” in the sew sense that the Donk Party loses with a WIDE MARGIN of political defeat come 2024. That has happened many times in American national elections, that is, a decisive political victory for one of the national political parties. You see even now some Democrats that are beginning to turn against Uncle Joe ~ Uncle Joe’s poll numbers are falling. If we live, we will find out, relatively soon, what the American electorate will decide about Uncle Joe. JAG
However, the one and only hope of the GOP to get and hold political power is the political excesses of the far Left, MUST turn the Moderate Wing of the Donk Party AND the Independents AWAY from voting for the Donk Party. If THAT does happen then, the GOP will have landslide victory margins at national elections and at mid-terms. Right now America is roughly 50 -50 at national elections. The party that wins, wins by narrow margins. That can change. Its possible to have national elections that end up with numbers like this: GOP 60% Donk Party 40% Best JAG
Trump and Biden are both garbage. The Republican and Democrat parties are both garbage. The ideologies of the left and the right are both garbage. People don't even think for themselves anymore, they just adopt the opinion of whatever their party or ideology tells them to. Ideologies are worse than organized religion these days. I find when I look at issues independently and ignore what the ideologies think, my opinions don't lie with any party or ideology. They are artificial constructs used to control the masses, just like organized religion was. If you don't adhere to the opinions of the ideology, you are shunned as an outsider. It's all so goofy. Hopefully one day Americans learn to think for themselves again, and we can get better candidates than the petty orange narcissist and the absent minded professor.
