LFTR: The perfect energy source

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  1. oldjar07

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    The private market will never invest in it, because they are already getting a good profit from current production of energy and because the startup costs would be in the billions of dollars. However, this doesn't mean that capitalism is the best for society, because producing energy can be done much cheaper while making the same profit. The private market will continue drilling for oil and mining coal until it becomes so expensive that people can't buy it anymore. By that time, what will happen to the environment and who do you expect to care for the environment? The government can go directly to investing in this because they have plenty of money to do so. The free market would take a lot longer to invest. You are choosing to overlook the obvious inefficiencies and drawbacks of only relying on the free market to provide the people with products and services.
     
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    Why are there so many anarchists on this site? I thought democracy was so great, and that is what we want to make the Middle East more democratic. Yet, people complain about everything in the U.S. Every energy source needs billions of dollars of government money. How about the government stops wasting money on renewables and subsidies and start funding the best source of energy for the long and short term future of America.
     
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    Energy needs no government money.
     
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    It is better if the government does fund energy if it makes it cheaper in the long run. Every energy source is extremely expensive and can't be funded privately. The majority of people also don't know what the best energy source is.
     
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    I'm a minarchist, aka libertarian. Ergo, the rest of your post is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    No form of nuclear power is viable without government funding.
     
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    No form of energy is viable without government funding.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Clearly false.
     
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    Sometimes the government can run something better than private businesses. That would be the case if the government considered funding LFTRs.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    You said no form of energy is viable without govt funding. False.
     
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    What energy source that is viable isn't funded by the government? The government can run things better than private businesses, especially with things as expensive as energy generation.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Oil coal natural gas and potentially nuclear are all viable without government funding. He government can run nothing better than the private sector.
     
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    Those are all funded by the government. The government can run most people's retirement and health costs better than the private sector. It depends on who is running the government. If the right government is in place with the right leaders, the government can run a lot of things better than the private sector.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    I'm not interested in getting in to whether or not they are funded by government, although I suspect that what you call funding I would call tax breaks.

    I am interested in pointing out how absurd this statement of yours is:
    the purpose of using energy sources is to make our work more productive. the reason we burn fuel in cars is to make transportation cheaper. the reason we burn gas in houses is to make keeping them warm cheaper. to say that all energy sources would not be economically viable without government funding is to say that energy is not worth using. government gets its money from us. if an energy source is not viable in the market, it is crazy to say that it becomes viable when governmnet taxes us and subsidizes the energy source.
     
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    Tagged because I want to read about this later.
     
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    Instead of the government taxing us, why don't they fund something like this to make energy cheaper so that the government makes a profit? These nuclear reactors are a lot more productive than just about any other energy source. Yes, I did include tax breaks as government funding.
     
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    Why are you pretending its not being used when in fact it is being used, even by PG&E?
     
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    well taxation needs to be understood here.




    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maz9ddxEQnM"]YouTube - The Beatles - Taxman[/ame]
     
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    seems this one is being funded by private investrs
     
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    why if they can have a small box in the back yard?

    Hell I want one for my car, would be nice to have the power of a 4 liter at 1/2 what I pay now.

    no wonder the oil industry is raping everyone they see the writing on the wall too
     
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    I thought you might want to know that your signature is bogus.

    http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/The_democracy_will_cease_to_exist
     
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    Got a link to a thorium reactor or any evidence that what you say is in any way true?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea what you are talking about or referring to.

    old jar or someone I believe posted several links to it somewhere in the beginning.

    are you saying it does not work?

    talk with old jar its his thread :)
     
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    What is PGandE?
     
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    pacific gas and electric
     

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