life begins at ejaculation

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  1. hilbert

    hilbert New Member

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    "social conservatives", please weigh in
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know what God did to Onan for jerking off.
     
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    This obvious abortion issue belongs in the abortion section, not here.
     
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    It's interesting, and somewhat paradoxical, that so many on the left subscribe to the theory of evolution and that life formed in some primordial soup. It may have, but that's not my point. My point is; if their belief is accurate, then those sperm and that egg constitutes life. They get together and form cells that divide and multiply...carrying out the functions that differentiates them from say, a rock. Then, they turn right around and claim that a fetus is fair game to be aborted, because it isn't a living thing...or a person. Well guys, which is it?
     
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    Not sure why you're asking. And I personally don't approve of abortion.
    But, it is a living thing, no doubt about it. But it is not a person. I don't know if we have a legal definition of person, but I bet there is.
     
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    Was onan the only man to ever jerk off?
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What it is is a nonsensical strawman argument.
    Nobody claims that fetuses aren't living things.
    The main argument is that it's not for the religious nutters to tell women what to do with their bodies.

    The only ones who are abusing children are the right-wingers who are happy to throw infants and children under the bus once they are born since it would actually cost money to care for them if they are needy.
    They prefer to use fetuses as political footballs because it costs them nothing to mouth hypocritical platitudes about the sanctity of life.
     
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    Ah yes, the typical argument that only the State is responsible enough to take care of children. Wonderful.
     
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    Correction; no one on the left denies that a fetus is alive. Personhood is different from being alive.
     
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    An argument that Pro-Abortion folks gives is that a fetus IS NOT A PERSON, thus can be terminated in the womb. I am not a religious nutter, I'm an agnostic. And I don't pretend to tell anyone what to do with their bodies. But I do question why they don't do it before they get pregnant...and why I should pay for an abortion if they too stupid to protect themselves. (rape, incest and chance of endangerment to the mother or some malformation to the baby aside)
     
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    Another broad brush statement. Typical of the RW.
    No one ever thinks the STATE is the ONLY entitity responsible enough. But in some cases, that is true.
     
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    Look at the bright side. Just think how many lonely, angry right wingers dumped their potential kids onto their bellies? It could be a whole lot worse with more of those conservative belly washers running around. Thank you, right wing, for helping to keep your populations down and silver spooned brats from being born. Society owes you a debt of gratitude. :hug:
     
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    I don't like to change subjects but I have to say that ejaculating onto one's own stomach is flipping gross. I don't know why any straight guy would get off on that.
     
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    A cabbage is a living thing, and so is a louse. If the rightwingers started treating decently the humans who are born they might carry some conviction - but they treat them worse than I would treat a dog, don't they?
     
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    Indeed,, as the Right Wing takes hold, and the large Churches gain complete political power (the Catholic Church and the Mormon Church are very similar in this regard), we can look forward to our Congress having discussions and passing laws like the following from your link:


    This is TRUE Catholic Church Belief and dogma.

    Be ready, America!
     
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    If you are paying attention to where it goes, you are not doing it right.
     
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    Only a lawyer or a scoundrel would acknowledge that something is alive and then try to arbitrarily define a term to justify taking that life away.
     
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    Actuiall the Real Party begins about 5 mins. prior:?
     
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    As I say, a louse is alive. You a Parsee or what?
     
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    Yes, the embryo is a living thing but does not deserve the concern that the liberal horde gives bacteria that may be living in a lake in Antarctica under two miles of ice. We spend millions and restrict people from using their own land to protect birds, lizards, sand flies, man eating sharks, Deer mice, etc.

    Just a little ridiculous if you ask me. I don't care how many stupid, lazy, drug addicted, criminal women get abortions but I don't want to pay for them or any other form of birth control. If you can't pay for birth control you should remain standing.

    So you want to abort babies just to (*)(*)(*)(*) off religious people. That is more ridiculous than closing a school near ten sand flies.

    Do you have an instance of that happening?
    We have seen that you're argument is more about opposing the religious people than really caring about the lives of anyone but many on the right really do care about the life of the fetuses because it is a real human life. Not a Deer mouse life, nor a sand fly life, etc. Some people really feel a responsibility to human life.
     
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    What happens with the stain in the sheets ... ? :crazy:

    ooops ... my bad ... Humor = Trolling.



    I'm guessing any type of waste is a sin!
     

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