Life Sentence for Being Gay in Uganda

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Nonsense.. Abortion was available during most of US history.. .. and it was not illegal but generally done by a woman and the wrong side of town.

    You might want to read this Missionary of Hate stuff.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/scott-lively
     
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    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile, on planet earth...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam#Medieval_jurisprudence
     
  3. Margot2

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    Islam generally tolerates homosexuality... There certainly is no death penalty for it.

    They also allow for divorce, contraception and abortion.

    While they tend to love big families (the birth rate is going down as women pursue higher education) they value spacing children for the health of the mother and the child.
     
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    Haha this is a joke right? Someone telling me this person is joking.

    Anyways, I don't think children should be exposed to sexual stuff but sadly the world has changed and sex education is important so they can learn how to protect themselves from STDs and avoided having kids of their own while they are still kids themselves. Abortion wasn't being discussed but it was happening. It was unsafe and dangerous because it was kept in the shadows. Gay marriage wasn't even dared talked about because of the abuse gay people were encountering back then. Thankfully as a country we are growing and evolving. I'm not sorry for that and if it bothers you GOOD because that's where growth begins. Growth isn't found in comfortable situations.
     
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    They used to send girls to homes for Unwed Mothers.. .. or AWAY to live with Aunt Tillie.

    I have never seen such ignorance.

    Abortion wasn't illegal in the US until 1830.... when there were more male doctors than midwives.

    In the 1890s, doctors estimated that there were two million abortions a year in the U.S. (compared with one and a half million today).
     
  6. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Last I heard Iran was forcing gays into sex changes and believed it was the most tolerant Transgender country in the world.

    For it's past

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#Ancient_Israel_and_West_Asia
     
  7. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Decent Christianity, the kind which worked for the release of Nelson Mandella, the kind which fights oppression and racism, the kind which fights poverty, the kind which looks out for the environment, the kind which looks out for the rights of all, yes that kind has been degraded both in the US and in Africa by the neo conservatives both political and religious.

    Here is what happened. Churches were in africa as missionaries. Conservative missionaries focused on evangelicalism while progressive focussed on social justice for example fighting colonialism and fighting poverty. Today religious conservatives promote progressive religious as 'evil' people who promote homosexuality. They exploit the African view, which they created, that the imposition on Africa of Western standards is imperialism.

    Not surprisingly it is the mainline progressive churches who have been the ones standing up against neo colonialism eg their support of the UN's Millennium Development goals – ending poverty and hunger, universal health care, universal education. Gender equality, combating aids, LGBT equality, looking after the environment and global partnership. The IRD and religious right have falsely convinced Africans that homosexuality is a Western Aberration which the West is trying to impose on them through neo imperialism Unfortunately they have been listening to the wrong people. Oh yeah, the money helped particular;y as IRD and neo Conservatives tend to give it to individuals with no questions asked whereas respectable Christian groups want to know how the money is spent.

    Here are some examples of Neo Conservative activity

    http://www.publiceye.org/publicatio...frica-full-report.pdf#page=13&zoom=auto,0,718

    You don't know this but you've been had as well.

    We are not talking about Sodomy, nor are we talking about rape or divorce.
     
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    Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God

    They only need to be washed
     
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    If it was some anonymous poster on a web site, I would not even notice.

    We are all free here in the U.S. to criticize whatever government actions we want to, and of course people criticize decisions of the U.S. government regularly. So for instance if Indonesia decided to make Christianity illegal, and imposed a life sentence on anyone convicted of practising Christianity, I would be just as appalled and just as opposed.
     
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    Oh I heard 'Christians' point of view long before there was any attempt to end marriage discrimination against them.

    All the way back to 1978 and the Briggs Initiative

    http://books.google.com/books?id=lq...riggs initiative california christian&f=false

    I have noticed that the "Christian" view appears to care more about opposing Homosexuals than in promoting what Jesus told his followers to do.
     
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    you understand there are some doing that......no.......more to pity.
     
  15. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting. I laughed at first, then saw it more seriously. This is possibly the sort of thing he has been preaching in Uganda. They apparently like to speak about the horrendous effects gays have on the family - family in Uganda having a different meaning than here - more like community. I'll tell you this stuff is so sick.
     
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    It is a democratic country to do with as they see fit.
     
  17. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is? We are? Not too sure the extent to which we are democratic. However in this instance it can be found that it is American Conservatives both political and religious who are behind her position. That is the point I made in the OP. Check out the thread for more or try this link

    http://www.publiceye.org/publicatio...frica-full-report.pdf#page=13&zoom=auto,0,718

    Basically Uganda has made this decision because she is a proxy in a Cultural War where the conservatives are using her to change Progressive Western Christianity and public feeling in the US. It's very interesting but the more you read, the less it seems it was free decision.
     
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    yeah right..........................
     
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    Groups have influence. How is the religious influences in Uganda somehow worse than the gay influences in the US? It is their country; this decision has no impact on me one way or the other--emotional or otherwise--so to each their own. If I were to make a list of other nations whose internal affairs I would want to meddle in or even care about, Uganda wouldn't make the Top 20.
     
  20. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd say, given the involvement from your country and the intent to influence your country it does effect you. You have of course every right to have no interest in it. It is just a bit unusual to enter a thread which does not interest you.
     
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    Telling people that not everywhere will be like the US nor should Americans meddle in the affairs of other countries when they have no interest there does interest me. Whatever influence individuals have or do not have is what democracy is. There are no "right" outcomes, just outcomes.
     
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    A person promoting homosexuality as equal to hetersexuality is not speaking for Jesus. Its a sin--you can't erase that from the Bible--0ld and New. So Jesus isn't going to promote people to sin.

    But apparently if you have heard the Christian view and I am having the gay agenda view rammed down my throat---sounds like we so far live in a free country.
     
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    Why don't you move to Uganda where your oppressive Christian views will be take seriously?
     
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    Well I guess after a life time of having the Christian agenda view rammed down my throat, it seems to me finally we are living in a free country.
     
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    I have to chuckle.....that sounds much like Michele Obama.
     

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