List of 9-11 Truther lies

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    #1. The boys of Loose Change claimed that a B-52 hit the Empire State building years ago. This was a lie.

    #2. Truthers argue that there are no witnesses to the planes crashing into the WTC on 9-11.
    This is a lie.

    #3. Truthers claim that molten IRON was found at the WTC.
    This is a lie.

    #4. Truthers claim that the Pentagon had an anti-aircraft missile system on 9-11.
    This is a lie.

    #5. Truthers claim that no steel building has ever collapsed before just due to fire.
    This is a lie, as the all-steel section of the Windsor Tower in Madrid collapsed due to fire.

    what else we got?
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Truthers claimed that the 9-11 hijackers have been found alive.

    This is a lie, as only people with the same names have been found, not the same people.
     
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    #6 'Truthers' claim that George Bush's cousin was the head of security at the WTC complex. This is a lie.
    #7 'Truthers' claim that no planes crashed into the WTC towers or the Pentagon. Also a lie.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Truthers claimed that it was very unusual that Larry Silverstein got terrorism insurance for the WTC.

    This is a lie, as he was required to do so by his investors & insurers, plus the fact that the WTC was hit by terrorists once before.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Truthers claimed that the WTC was a boondoggle and worthless investment.

    This is a lie. The WTC was still profitable, which is why Silverstein and Vornado bid on the complex.
     
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    #1. The boys of Loose Change claimed that a B-52 hit the Empire State building years ago. This was a lie.

    How come I never heard of that?


    #2. Truthers argue that there are no witnesses to the planes crashing into the WTC on 9-11.
    This is a lie.

    Troughers/Official Story Huggers can not provide a single fully validated source.


    #3. Truthers claim that molten IRON was found at the WTC.
    This is a lie.

    It was found by everyone but NIST who couldnt find their ass if their fingers were in it.

    #4. Truthers claim that the Pentagon had an anti-aircraft missile system on 9-11.
    This is a lie.

    Which truther did that?


    #5. Truthers claim that no steel building has ever collapsed before just due to fire.
    This is a lie, as the all-steel section of the Windsor Tower in Madrid collapsed due to fire.

    Troughers/Official Story Huggers do not know the difference between a section of a building and a whole building
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    #6 'Truthers' claim that George Bush's cousin was the head of security at the WTC complex. This is a lie.

    He had authority within said security company same as a head would have had.


    #7 'Truthers' claim that no planes crashed into the WTC towers or the Pentagon. Also a lie.

    All plane crash video is fake.
    Troughers/Official Story Huggers can not provide a single fully validated plane crash clip.
    No fully validated crash clips no validated witmesses.
    Yeh we belive that!.


    Truthers claimed that the WTC was a boondoggle and worthless investment.

    This is a lie. The WTC was still profitable, which is why Silverstein and Vornado bid on the complex.

    says who silverstein? LMAO


    Truthers claimed that the 9-11 hijackers have been found alive.

    This is a lie, as only people with the same names have been found, not the same people.

    yeh thats the way identifying someone works, if the have the same name chances are they are the same person. Britain veried that LOL


    any more?
     
  6. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    list is much longer man...

    truthers strategy is simple, they make things up and pass it facts amongst them and apply the mosaic theory in that they complie a ton of inconsequential anomalies and inconsistencies and use them as evidence.

    As an example, let's say i'm walking down the street with a gun and blow someone important away after i see his body guard go take a leak. I shoot the guy twice in the head in front of a crowd, in public. At the time of the shooting, there happens to be 2 police cars in the area and i just don't give a crap. 7 witnesses claim they saw me do the shooting but 2 claim they saw someone that looked different. Additionally, 14 witnesses claim they heard 2 shots but 4 of them claim they heard 4-5 shots. A conspiracy theorist will do the following - 1. Ignore the 7 witnesses and 14 witnesses that point to me as being the shooter 2. Ignore the murder weapon with my finger prints. They will then go on to focus on the minority of witnesses that thought they heard and saw something different. They zone in on the two police cars, perhaps question how i could've taken those shots in the presence of cops. They may even find out that the police cars were in an area where they were not supposed to be at that time and also focus on this. Of course, they will also point to the body guard leaving the guy's side. In addition to this, they will find some conspiracy theorist that will claim that the two head wounds couldn't have possibly come from my gun, based on where witnesses put me at the time of the shooting. There you go, we have a conspiracy about cops and body guard facilitating the murder and using me as a patsy..
     
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    Real truthers don't believe that no planes hit the towers. The "Truthers" who say that are infiltrator shills trying to discredit the truth movement.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYedTmaHt1A
    "provocateurs,shills and disinfo agents"
    (7:20 time mark)
     
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    i see your problem. IN the second video the claims that has been totally debunked keeps being mentioned.
    1. No one studying the collapse says the steel melted.
    2. The buildings didn't implode
    3. No evidence that anyone fed the media (why would they comply)

    That is all in under 10 minutes.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ahh...the "no true Scotsman" logical fallacy.

    :)
     
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    This only shows how delusional and dishonest Koko is. He ignores all evidence that clearly debunks his 3rd grade claims and then claims all those videos are hoaxed...when he has no idea how that could be done or that there is no evidence of any such thing.
     
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    I also think the Democrats not throwing George Bush and co under the bus very telling. When the attacks went down, it was all about Bush and the mysterious group that planned to destroy America. Again no evidence just all rumor.
     
  13. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you never saw the first Loose Change movie? lol!!!

    and btw, the Truther movie "In Plain Sight", includes interviews and comments from folks who saw the planes on 9-11.
     
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    If President Bush's administration had something to do with 9/11, which I don't think they did, I don't believe President Obama would throw them under the bus for it.

    The revelation to the public by the U.S. government that the U.S. government knowingly allowed the attacks to happen or worse yet performed the attacks themselves would threaten continuity of government and social order in America not seen since the Civil War.

    Every leader worth his or her weight in salt worries about the people they're responsible for, particularly, their morale. Morale would plummet if such a thing were to ever come out into the open. The public's trust in government would be shattered, which inevitably leads to bad things for everyone.
     
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    which of course proves NOTHING lol

    nope only parts of the second one
     
  16. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it proves that even Truthers know that there were planes that hit the WTC.

    No-Planers are clearly agents of disinformation/division.
     
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    meet the wingless wonder that millions upon trillions upon gagamegazillions of people saw!

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    Gotta love the explosions before the plane even connects. I'd fire who ever did crappy work like that.


    [​IMG]se


    Seen from all angles too!


    This is cgi 101, but then of course there is always someone who will run off to a dablunder site and grab the first thoughtless trash they can find that does not take into account the 20 degree angle of attack, and post a 2004 remanufactured modified version instead of the damning original LOL

    but then we wouldnt want to get ahead of ourselves.

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    feel free to convince me these are real! LMAO

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    its obvious the planes below are the fakes you agree right?

    [​IMG]

    especially the one above almost 5 miles out shot with a cheap consumer cam.

    [​IMG]

    yep this last one is fake too, but those wtc planes are real alright.

    convince me.
     
  18. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its clear even to Truthers: No-Planers are disinfo-agents.

    [video=youtube;u4MROSC2UVI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=u4MROSC2UVI[/video]
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    which one of those videos do you "thinik" you see a plane impact the tower? time stamp please
     
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    Every (*)(*)(*)(*)ing one of them that captures the plane in the open at impact or shortly before.

    Now, we also have a lot of people verifying that they saw the planes hit, so they have to have been there.

    There is no way to project an image on a clear blue sky or to the retina of a standard Mark I eyeball.
     
  21. Kokomojojo

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    if you tried to say that crap in court under oath you would be enjoying a little time in the gray bar hotel right now for perjury.

    really? no we dont. what people? what verification? I have yet to see any dablunderer site evidence that claim.
     
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    What would they do to BJ when his replies to tough questions consist of "go take a physics class" or "I'm not explaining that to someone who doesn't understand".

    GREAT rebuttals! All of them.
     
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    well most people view mountains of strawman red herrings as bull(*)(*)(*)(*) not tough questions
     
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    Typical dodge response.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    almost all the videos show the plane crash into the tower.

    we all know you see it.
     

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