LIVE! 1st Democrat 2k16 presidential debate

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  1. zbr6

    zbr6 Banned

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    Ha, you can thank Democrats and the Iowa caucus for the subsidies oil companies get.

    As for overall subsidies only one oil company makes the top 10.

    Do a bit of research and find out who those top 10 are ...then find out who they donated to.

    I'll help you out ...8 of them have donated to Hillary ...the other 2 haven't donated at all ...yet.

    Bro, listen ...bro ...listen ...you're fighting a class warfare because your overlords told you to.

    They just want to keep you angry and distracted.
     
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    you have no clue what you're talking about
     
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    Ok sure thing guy.

    Did you check that top 10 subsidized list and check who they contribute to?

    Republican corporate welfare ...uh huh.
     
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    it shows that you don't know what you're talking about
     
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    Sooooo, no ...you didn't check?
     
  6. dujac

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    you're wrong again
     
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    Haha just because you don't want to own up to reality doesn't mean I'm wrong.
     
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    republicans are owned by corporatists, look at alec, look at reality

    republicans want to take history back, use 'dog whistle' talk to get racist's attention, proliferate arms, repress minorities, suppress democratic voting, repeal the aca, defund public education, make taxes regressive and revert to a more theocratic, authoritarian governance; it's the typical fear & ignorance platform

    democrats want equal rights, progress, gun control, democratic voting, affordable healthcare, tuition-free public education, progressive tax rates, more pay for workers, secularist government, rational governance, hope and change
     
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    So you started by coming at me with an accusation of corporate welfare.

    I told you to go take a look at which companies are subsidized the most and who their CEOs, officers, board members, etc are donating to ...which was then Obama and is now Hillary.

    After four or so posts of not bothering to do that, or at least not owning up to it, you fall back on the default liberal position.

    Crying racist.

    Hahaha.
     
  10. dujac

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    get a grip on reality

    i've been reading about the subject for decades

    i took economics classes that analyzed case studies of corporate welfare
     
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    Then you should easily be able to come to the realization that subsidies or "corporate welfare" go hand in hand with political donations.

    You should also be able to figure out who the top 10 recipients are, and who their CEOs, officers, board members, etc donate to.

    We're done now cause this back and forth is just getting old.

    If you want to be against subsidies ...fine ...just don't think its a partisan thing.
     
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    donations don't change democrats desire to help the working classes and poor
     
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    Are you serious? The dems went in because they freaking believed liars Bush and Cheney. The country trusted that Bush/Cheney were being truthful. It is not impossible to know, it has been hashed and rehashed. You need to quit being so naive.


    But the problem with Rove’s account is that not only did Bush oversee the twisting of intelligence to justify invading Iraq in March 2003 but he subsequently lied – and lied repeatedly – about how Iraq had responded to United Nations inspection demands.

    So, while it may be impossible to say for certain what Bush believed about Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction, it can’t be argued that Bush didn’t know that Iraq declared that it had destroyed its WMD stockpiles and let U.N. inspectors in to see for themselves in the months before the invasion.

    Nevertheless, Bush followed up his false pre-war claims about Iraq’s WMD with a post-invasion insistence that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had barred U.N. inspectors from his country, a decision that Bush said left him no choice but to invade. Bush began reciting this faux history just months after the invasion and continued the tall tale until the end of his presidency more than five years later.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2012/04/26/bush-did-lie-about-iraq/

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    Bush was President. Bush lied when he claimed that Iraq wouldn't let the inspectors in......he also co-erced CIA to go along with his lies.
     
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    Just because there are more closed-minded Republican/conservatives on this Forum that agree with you doesn't change facts. It is a known truth. Bush lied....end of story.

    What issues did they discuss? How they were each going to defund Planned Parenthood? How they were going to repeal Obamacare? People are not in favor of either, but the real issues, like jobs, and higher income were not discussed....the Republican candidates were too busy tearing at each other. Something you didn't see the Democratic candidates doing.

    Clinton is eloquent, strong and knows a whole lot more about foreign policy than that humdrum low energy guy, Carson. Most of his comments can be dismissed as foolish and he certainly doesn't inspire sensible people with this monotone responses. I doubt he will even make it out of the primaries.
     
  16. LeeroyHim

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    Dems were for it before Bush was in office, again who lied, we dont know.

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    Its a known truth yet mine has more links and more links from credible sources.

    You also clearly never watched the debates, ACA and pp altogether in both debate combined was barely 11 minutes.

    What does Carson have to do with anything, are you ok, actually hold that.
     
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    1. Still wont go further to defend yourself against my more credible source so you lost.

    2. This has nothing to do with what you said you lost this argument as well for backpedaling.

    3. Fact was she has the big cats giving her money, Carson is near her without them, another one lost.
     
  18. dujac

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    what a joke
     
  19. LeeroyHim

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    Welp yes you are. You have majority of people in this thread talking to you saying you're wrong, you post one link, I post a more credible link and now you're running cared like a child.
     
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    your fairy tales are amusing
     
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    So not going to address you own claims eh. Must be sad. Let me know when you want to provide proof for your nonsense instead of 1st grade one liners little boy. Have a nice day. But go ahead and get that last word in, my dogs always obey,.
     
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    i've already addressed them, your arguments are ridiculous
     
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    Good boy.

    Also no you didnt you posted one link, i posted one link that had more credibility, and the others in this thread dont agree with you. Exactly what did you address, you cant even prove who lied to who.
     
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    like i said, your arguments are ridiculous
     
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    So you still havent proven anything little boy, now be a good dog and reply back, we all know you are depressed because no one in this thread agrees with you and you wont post anything to back up your statement.
     

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