Loch Ness monster cited by US schools as evidence that evolution is myth

Schools aren't in the business of teaching fairy tales as fact. Keep the creationist nonsense in churches where it belongs, and away from normal people.

 

Shouldn't parents also treat their kids with some respect and allow them to make a decision on what they choose to believe, or otherwise, when they're old enough to make an informed choice-rather than indoctrinating them with their own beliefs when they're young, naive and impressionable? 'You will be taught to believe this because I say it's right'?

 

Nobody said they should

 

Please, schools twist stuff all the time.

Go into any elementary class and listen to what the teach about Chrisotpher Columbus and tell me that creationism is worse than that. Hell they promote Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny and you will never find a classroom for younger children teaching them the truth.

Once kids get into college they usually have enough facts to make up their own mind. If parents want to send their children to schools that teach creationism that should be entirely up to them.

 

Public schools teach christianity is not true? How so?

 

I was not presenting that as any sort of fact, only as a hypothetical. If tax dollars should not be used to support schools that teach creationism then it shouldn't be used to support schools that teach against it I.E. evolution.

 

It is the one size fits all mentality. The left will not rest until we all think and act the same.......while supposidly supporting "muliculturalism". LOL.

 

I'm having a problem why people are so against letting parents have choices and more options available to them. You go with a complete voucher system and the successful schools will rise to the top. If creationism is not popular enough then society will end up closing that school by not supporting it by sending their kids somewhere else.

If a school opens that wants to teach that Kermit the Frog is a God then by all means let them but parents will ultimately decide how long that school stays open.

I would personally never send my child to a school that teaches creationism but it should be out there for parents who do believe in it, and that is not a small portion of the population by the way. Its a fully justified curriculum to many many people and as such they should have the right to have it taught to their children.

 

Kingdom: Animalia <-- animal
Phylum: Chordata <-- with a spine
Class: Synapsida <-- with a skull
Class: Mammalia <-- making kids not eggs
Order: Primates <-- with nails not claws
Superclass Hominid <-- with dry noses
Family: Hominidae <-- apes
Tribe: Hominini <-- great apes
Subtribe: Hominina <-- very (generically) closely related great apes
Genus: Homo <-- Humans
Species Homo Sapient <-- us

feel free to correct me

 

So there would be no standards????

How would you teach math, science, grammar etc if it was a big free for all?

 

I thought there were christians who thought that evolution was true. I'm sorry if science is in conflict with a belief system ,science must prevail in tax funded education.

 

Evolution doesn't teach against creationism for the simple reason that creationism is not science. It's faith. Faith is not science.

 

How are math and grammar and science really going to be effected by teaching creationism?

2+2 will still equal 4 no matter what school you attend. There will still be a proper way to form sentences no matter what school you go to and the parents know this. If some school is teaching kids that 2+2 =5 do you think they will keep their children there?

If a school is teaching that the sun revolves around the earth and that the earth is flat do you think they would keep their kids there?

 

Why are you asserting there would be no standards? What leads you to come to such a ridiculous conclusion?

The teachers and parents are the ones who set the standards. You're basically saying that they are either incapable of doing it altogether, or that government bureaucrats are more efficient at setting standards than parents and teachers are. I disagree with your opinion.

 

There are plenty of educated Christians, but there are also 1400 different Christian sects.

My youngest cousin is a renown orthopedic surgeon and very devout...Creationism is not an issue for him.. He knows it as a morality tale.

Look around at physicians, scientists, engineers etc.... Jewish, Christian or Muslim... they don't get hung up on Bible literalism.

 

In actuality, full creationism is becoming very rare as a theory and is only really believed in by hardcore religious zealots. The new theory involves a combination of evolution and creationism since, as usual, the Bible is not very clear and can be interpreted any number of ways depending on what the science of the day is.

I honestly do not know anyone who sticks by the theory that the Earth is only 6,000 years old anymore. Or that people did not migrate out of Africa, the evidence is simply becoming overwhelming. Instead, they teach that this whole process started from a creation point of view and then unfolded in the way that science supports.

Its really a harmless view that appeases both sides.

 

Then don't take the SAT.

 

Non sequitor

 

Evolution is science. Creationism is nonsense.

There's the difference.

 

Why would anyone handicap students by teaching ancient mythos as science or history?

 

No it's not harmless if it starts from a creation POV. There is no evidence that supports that whatsoever and science must be about evidence.

 

To my knowledge the Ocean is still one of the last frontiers for our scientists, and although the Ocean has nothing to do with Ness there is still plenty we have not yet discovered or can explain. In this instance many children may just disagree with them and some may have many questions, either way there is nothing wrong with debate and hopefully it may stimulate some lively conversation at the diner table.

It's part of a parents job to let their child know one should not believe everything they read, nor that questioning is a bad thing. I certainly did not believe everything I was taught in school, either should they.

 

Your missing the point that its the parents call on what to teach their children, not yours. If you don't agree with it then don't send your kids there but you have no right to apply your standards to other people. Do you have issues with the way public schools teach about Christopher Columbus which is obviously a HUGE distortion of historical fact?

 

Obviously you would teach Christopher Columbus differently to 3rd graders than you would to 9th graders.

 

Whoever said a few parents get to decide what is taught? My mother taught public school for decades and would find that a shock.Parents have some input via their elected representatives, that's how creationism is being possibly being brought back in texas. But individual parents do not get to control the public schools and that's a good thing. And again if parents don't like the public schools they can always go to private ones and pay and get whatever they like or home school. And if you are talking about the sanitized version of Columbus , there is a good lesson to be learned for children in that one. Winners write the history books.