London Riots: We Tried To Warn You

Small military budgets and high taxation permit maximum "social justice" spending and government dependency....

Funny how leftists still can't make it work....

funnier still, is how American leftists, in the face of these realities, believe slashing military spending and raising taxes is the magic bullet.

 

LOL. No comments both comments.

Nonsense about the things of the Islamism. That is irreal.

And pray? LOL. Fight or act. But pray what a stupid act :-S

 

We can't!

 

Great observations, webrockk!

By the way, the liberals in this group can make all the silly and unreasonable excuses they want. However, if you want the real truth about the root cause of this violent civil disobedience, here are some excellent observations on this very subject.

"By the age of 12, an ordinary slum-dweller has learned he has nothing to fear from the law and the only people to fear are those who are stronger or more ruthless than he."

 

You've posted this (including the article) about 4 or 5 times now and twice on this thread. Quit spamming.

 

The people are rioting because the Government is not interested in representing the people.

It is too busy listening to the crap the international financial sector spouts and buying into the threats it makes.

What Government doesn't yet get is, many people here would rather starve in the streets than bail out stupid capitalists. Govt needs to man up and stop taking direction from the wrong people.

The people who rioted are a cross section of society, the details publicised are people in full employment.

Oh good plan...let's all start shooting each other and increase the tragic death toll and the number of families suffering the loss of a loved one from 4 to 400. [end sarcasm]

...Muslims are not controlling UK.

Can I just clarify, are you inciting people to violence? Or inciting people to riot? (and is it legal or even responsible?)

I suppose after all that, you are not going to change. But you would be well advised to quit making up problems and check the demographics before pontificating.

Indeed.

Which leftists? The Government of the country which is the subject of the thread (the UK) is Conservative. Conservatives failed.

 

Do you have a link to this info? I'm just curious.

 

Of course not. Silly to think I alone could.

You have a parliament right?

 

Gainfully employed cubicle jockey's on America's progressive left are equivalent to UK "conservatives"

 

How come these looters are texting each other on Blackberrys if they are so deprived? 'Social justice' is a myth of scoialist indocrination at best. I am a Christian and will always help people worse off than me but they have no 'right' to rob me!

 

They probably stole them as well!

 

Excuse me for being late to the game, but I'm now seeing the OP for the first time.

Does anyone else see this as a blatent act of terrorism? "Keep giving me freebies or we'll riot in the streets." If the BS in the OP were true, I'm rather surprised that during the great depression, entire American cities weren't burned to the ground by all the poor people who've given themselves over to violence as a means of achieving parity. We don't have to look to Iran, Syria, or any other Muslim nation to find terrorists...we have plenty of them right here at home.

And they call themselves "Progressives."

 

There were riots in the great depression...

 

You are very incorrect, Viv.

These problems in Britain did not simply materialize overnight.

These problems have arisen as a result of years and years of failed socialist policies promulgated by the Labour party of Great Britain.

Please check this out.

"By the age of 12, an ordinary slum-dweller has learned he has nothing to fear from the law and the only people to fear are those who are stronger or more ruthless than he."

"Of course, none of this reduces the personal responsibility of the rioters. But the riots are a manifestation of a society in full decomposition, of a people with neither leaders nor followers but composed only of egotists."

 

STOP SPAMMING. That is the third time in this thread you have posted that article.

 

You are correct, saintmichaeldefendthem.

These problems have arisen as a result of years and years of failed socialist policies promulgated by the Labour party of Great Britain.

Even dogs are smart enough to know you don’t defecate and urinate where you eat and sleep.

Not so with the "progressives" in Britain and many of the liberals in this group!



By the way, here is one reason why most liberals often are very dizzy when it comes to organizing their thoughts and thinking clearly!

 

Well said.... these people were NOT rioting because they were starving, or needed medical attention, or needed a place to live. Most were on the govt dole, and the idea that it would be ending or even cut back a bit gave them panic. "Oh no!!!! we might actually have to take care of ourselves!!!!" I heard one of the protesters say... "I am just getting back my taxes". You mean the ones that you did NOT pay in the first place?

it is interesting to note that many of the stores were burned to the ground and NOTHING was taken. So much for them being so hungry.... doing it for their families, etc. This is a romantic notion of who these people are... and it is not true! You all saw the videos for yourselves.... you HEARD what these people said.... how can you continue to pretend you did not hear what you heard, and do not know.... what you clearly DO know....?

 

Because sadly.... there are many that have the attitude of... "Why work if someone else will pay my way?" Here is a thought experiment for you. Ask 100 people currently on welfare if they would rather work (say at a supermarket) for the day, or not work, and get paid the same amount anyway. See what the answers would be....

 

And from whence does this laziness come?

Welfare, you say! Then why do the Social Democracies not suffer from this plight?

They riot out of frustration and desire for social status. Should they? I don't care whether or not they should. I care as to why and how we can influence that why to prevent riots.

 

Translation: We need to find a way to understand and placate rioters so they won't feel the need to burn down their neighborhoods. What is it we are doing to make them riot?

 

You have two options:
A): Reform
B): Authoritarianism

It seems you have made your choice.

 

A): Reform. Reform happens through the democratic process, not as a response to riots. We do not negotiate with terrorists.

B): Authoritarianism is the correct response when people riot in the streets. This isn't the peacable assembly protected by the Constitution, it's an abandonment to unrestrained lawlessness and the remedy is the application of the law by force. These people don't need to be understood, they need to be arrested and incarcerated for their crimes. Period.

 

Calling everyone a terrorist is simple-minded at best.

Sure, yes you arrest and imprison these people. Then what?

Do you wait a few years for it to happen again and act shocked all over again? Wonder what happened?

In order to prevent crime you have to understand crime.

Your knee-jerk 'terrorist' response is as vacuous as it is useful.

 

Ironically, the actions of these leftie "anarchist" punks only strengthens the police state.

 

I know, Neoliberalism's greatest irony is that in its quest for prosperity and freedom it creates poverty and requires authoritarianism to survive. It aboutfaces.

EDIT: They were not 'leftie anarchists".