Lone Pregnant Woman Driving in HOV Lane Not in Violation

Pregnant Texas woman says unborn baby should count as car passenger after receiving HOV ticket

A pregnant Texas woman said her unborn baby should count as a second passenger in her vehicle, citing Texas' penal code in the wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned, after receiving a ticket.

Brandy Bottone, 32, of Plano, Texas, was pulled over on June 29 after driving in an HOV lane, or high-occupancy vehicle land, according to NBC-DFW. Bottone was stopped by a Dallas County Sheriff Department who was looking for drivers violating the HOV lane rules.

The HOV lane requires drivers to have at least one passenger in their car while using the lane.

When the sheriff's deputy told Bottone of the rule, she said she did, in fact, have a second occupant in her car — her unborn baby.

"I pointed to my stomach and said, ‘My baby girl is right here. She is a person,'" Bottone told The Dallas Morning News, who first reported the story.

The officer responded that the rule applies to "two people outside of the body."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pregnant-texas-woman-says-unborn-183039673.html

I agree with the woman. If a fetus is a person according to the "law" then logically she should not have been ticketed. Furthermore the cop says the rule applies to "two people outside of the body". Now although I haven't read the Texas law, I'm willing to bet the HOV law says nothing of the kind and the cop is making up caca out of thin air. Hopefully she'll be able to get her ticket dismissed and the cop should be reprimanded.

And the woman should be able to claim her fetus as a dependent on her taxes. If it's twins then 2 dependents, etc. And if child tax credits are in effect, then that also applies.

Can't have it both ways, either a fetus is a person or it isn't according to "law".

 

Having it both ways is EXACTLY how they operate.

 

Woman? That can’t be defined. You meant birthing person.

Technically she’s right, but who would have predicted this? It will be interesting to see if the pro abortion people agree with her.

 

Who is "pro abortion"? I don't know anyone who is "pro abortion". Personally I am totally against abortion except under extreme circumstances such as rape, threats to life and health and quality of life issues. I will always defend the constitutionally protected right to bodily autonomy which includes a woman's right to choose.

 

Nobody is "pro abortion". They just like to write it that way to make it sound evil and sinister. <--That's their only function in life, spread lies and hatred.

I don't understand why they don't understand it's a double-standard to refuse to socially distance, wear masks and/or vaccinate but think they have the right to DICTATE what somebody else does with their own body. I'm glad I don't engage with anybody like that in my everyday life. I keep a wide berth away from that trash.

 

What do you think pro choice means? If you’re not anti abortion then you’re pro abortion.

 

I'm pretty sure a passenger seat needs to be occupied

 

The officer responded that the rule applies to "two people outside of the body."

You even proved in YOUR OP that your title is not true. Did you miss that?

 

Nonsense. What do YOU think pro-choice means? If you're not pro-choice you must be pro-slavery because you believe others have the right to choose for you, right?

 

It means you believe in CHOICE.

 

Nope, she was alone, there was nothing wrong with the title. Did you miss that? The "law" says she was not alone because in the eyes of the "law" her fetus is a person. I don't invent idiotic "laws". The "law" also says corporations (a paper created fiction) are the same as persons entitled to the same protected constitutional rights as a human being (an actual person).

 

Stupid argument. It’s someone that is using another seat. Although a baby or child shouldn’t count for the HOV lane. It’s about commuting and motivating people to drive together.

 

Really? The term reproductive rights has nothing to do with reproduction, and for the most part the term women’s health is misleading.

 

Asinine assumption on your part. "Pro-abortion" would be someone who recommends abortion in any and all circumstance - which pro-choice obviously do not -
hence the "choice" part. It ain't rocket science, dude.

 

Dude - do you know nothing of women?

When a woman chooses the timing of reproduction, then she is exercising her reproductive rights.
When a woman exercises those reproductive rights, she is making determinations about her own health - given that the process of
reproduction includes numerous complications and physical changes occurring during that reproductive process.

C'mon - you know this.

 

As usual, your post is worthless so "A" for consistency!

 

Maybe not. Have your read the thread about the 10 year old pregnant girl going out-of-state to obtain an abortion? Apparently, there are adults out there with absolutely no clue what happens during insemination or pregnancy. But, I gave them an "A" for being consistent in their ignorance.

 

This really isn’t nothing new. Most laws have always allowed for double homicide charges if you murder a pregnant woman. I support this logic on both fronts. Glad she won

 

Where does it give a woman’s right to choose in the constitution. That’s a load of BS.

 

everyone pays taxes for the road, should not be segregated

 

What they're saying is one can be anti-abortion without wanting to ban it. I hate abortion. Its evil. But theres plenty of evil that isn't -and shouldn't be- illegal.

 

wonder if the "my body, my choice" people for the vaccine are pro-choice?

 

Okay, so the woman says you have two people in the car, that counts as ride-sharing. Well, now she's violating another law in that only one person can be seated in the driver's seat during its operation. So okay, give her a ticket for that; there's her moving violation.

Problem solved.

 

Too bad the pro-abortion crowd got greedy and went for partial birth abortion at the whim of the woman. Now they lost Roe v Wade.

 

I wonder if this will lead to the removal of HOV lanes. Essentially 50% of the population can claim to be pregnant and it may be difficult for a traffic officer to dispute that claim on the spot.

On the flip side for business that charge per person does this mean pregnant woman have to pay double or even triple for twins. I know for most airlines toddlers under 2 fly free for local flights but some still charge a discounted fee for international flights. Technically they may have to pay for those flights.