Looking for a level-headed vegetarian to talk privately about a project

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  1. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    Or we can call it Angreysad Jackass. (GIRUY:shock:)

    You have to be a Jackass to be impervious to animals which are displaying fear. Or just selfish.

    Have you ever watched a documentary about battery farming? Or even about mass produced chicks and how they're sorted on rolling conveyors when they're born. It's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing barbaric. They are born and within minutes being rolled along and these (*)(*)(*)(*)ers are so evil and calculating they have measured the gaps between the rollers so that the eggshells fall from the chicks and into the gap for disposal, leaving the chicks to be lifted, looked at and if they're one category they are literally thrown into a chute, while others carry on being conveyed.

    I am no bleeding heart, but I would like to get a hold of the people who work in these places and have half an hour in a room even just to ask them wtf they think they are doing.
     
  2. Viv

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    Have you ever seen the Spanish doing their celebratory baby pig routine? It's the most horrible thing, the piglet's back looks exactly like a baby's back and they smash into it with plate and break it into pieces. You can't think about it, you'd never eat again.

    What our man doesn't realise is, almost all of us have animals living in our own homes and quite happily not killing to survive.
     
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    LOL

    Okay, okay... if you wish it named specifically after you, that is fine by me.

    But I was thinking more along the lines of From coop to kitchen, ...just seems more marketing savvy.


    :blowkiss:
     
  4. Viv

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    Get back in your cage, you outdated predator.:megaphone:
     
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    :angered:




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    *smile* ...my best to you and your crew.
     
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    You do realize the cows we eat aren't walking around in nature? If we quite eating them, there is no point in having them around. AKA, they disappear. You going to dedicate land for a cow national park? The same for pigs, sheep, chickens, etc. Not to mention, unless all you eat is sand, plants are living creatures too. If all you are basing this on is if the thing you are eating can look you in the eyes and cry out in pain, then not being there to look it in the eyes or hear it cry out should suffice.
     
  7. Ernie_McCracken

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    That's completely ridiculous. They don't think like you. To them, there isn't a better alternative. I think it's hilarious that you think animal activists are going to provide meat alternative to all the wild meat-eating animals in the world, and they will then stop hunting and eating other animals. Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds?
     
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    So you assign human emotions and characteristics to animals that don't have them, and you also base your feelings on a sci-fi novel that could never happen? That's some solid reasoning.
     
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    I thought PETA used all of their money on porn sites? How much money does PETA give every year to wildlife habitat preservation and restoration, by the way? Oh that's right, $0.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/19/peta-porn-site_n_931509.html
     
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    I am not, nor do I think I ever could be, a vegetarian.

    It's certainly possible to survive on an all plant diet. If that's the route you like, go for it.

    I also agree that some of the conditions in which the livestock we eat are raised are deplorable and disgusting. Those practices should be changed, including all the antibiotics that are getting pumped into them.

    But, I still love steak, medium rare, with the blood mixed in with the juice. It makes my happy and I enjoy it. Our bodies function in such a way that meat is a choice for us, it tastes good to some of us, it provides nourishment, and our bodies can digest it for nutritional value.

    I have 2 cats. Even though they are fed everyday and never go wanting for food, they still go out and kill small game and eat it. Why do you think they do this and is it a choice?

    I do not think we will ever convince animals not to eat meat. They aren't making conscious decisions based on morals and philosophies, they are folowing the instinctual urge to put food in their bellies when there isn't food in them, and some animals just instinctively eat meat. It's not that they haven't heard of vegetarianism, or they are not moved by the plight of those animals that end up as food, they are just completely unaware and unattached to any of those uniquely human moral concerns.
     
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    If you consider your comments and have a think, you'll find cows did walk around in nature before we started interfering with them. They might grow some fur and a spanking big pair of horns...not unlike wild buffalo.

    Remember. Buffalo. Big boss cows that walked around in nature until some predator started shooting them in irresponsible numbers etc etc etc....

    There are variations of cow wandering around all over the world and surviving with no help from men. The only thing you need do is leave them alone. They will take care of the rest.
     
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    Are you unaware that they, like anyone else, would (and dogs already have) change their habits for something better than meat? No one is ascribing moral concerns to animals, although it's been evidenced some animals know right and wrong (as my dog would tell you if he could, after that incident today where I found some newly planted plants destroyed, stuck my hands in the dirt and came up with his bone. I don't give a toss what the anti-humane squad say, the dog was guilty, he knew he was guilty and he all but held his paw up to take the rap).
     
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    Oh yes, it's totally barking. Woof woof. Now look at your dog and come back to me on it.
     
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    Oh for goodness sake, don't run away.
     
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    What do you feed that dog, anyway? Have you checked the ingrediants in his dog food? Is it made purely from veggies? Have you offered him an alternative diet consisting only of plants?
     
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    Whatever it is (and who knows what it is really, it looks like some kind of biscuit), he doesn't go out and kill it dead himself.

    I have heard that dogs can live on a vegetarian diet. Doesn't seem viable to me, but the Vet says otherwise.
     
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    LOL!

    ...they are indeed so wonderful at times.
     
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    Well somebody had to, right?
     
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    pfft... I'll bet if Viv's dog could talk (other than speaking with her, of course), he'd tell us he likes chicken.
     
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    Biscuits. He eats biscuity things. Do you kill your biscuits?

    Biscuit Bob.
     
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    That dog knows people. He'd be attached to your butt before you could say, "please become vegetarian now".
     
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    Why are you doing this? What is your motivation?

    What are the ethics behind letting a battery farmer walk away, possibly to set up a bigger battery farm with the money you paid him?
     
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    No, I don't kill biscuits, but there is meat in dog biscuits, and that meat came from animals that somebody had to kill. Quit being dense.
     
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    If you want to kill some biscuits, put them down to your dog.

    Or put any edible substance in front of your dog and tell me how much of it he refuses.

    Dogs eat. They eat almost anything and don't care what they eat. They don't know they're supposed to eat meat exclusively (or perhaps they have more sense than the dense).
     
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    My dog doesn't eat veggies. I've given her veggies before and she spits them out.

    If you think animals shouldn't eat meat from other animals, then why not feed your dog only vegetables?
     

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