Lord Byron was a gay homosexual and he frequented visits to albania.

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he English Romantic poet George Gordon, Lord Byron (1788–1824) took up residence at Trinity College, Cambridge, in October 1805, and established an intimate friendship with John Edleston, a choirboy at Trinity Chapel, which lasted until he left Cambridge in June 1807. As a pledge of their love, Edleston in 1806 gave Byron a cornelian brooch pin in the shape of a heart, to which Byron refers in his poem "The Adieu" (about their parting) and the series of poems in which Edleston is disguised under the feminine name "Thyrza" (several of which were suppressed after their initial publication). Byron asked his other boyhood friend Edward Noel Long: "pray, keep the subject of my 'Cornelian' a Secret." Thomas Moore, Byron's friend and first biographer, who allowed Byron's memoir to be destroyed and who excised the homosexual passages from the surviving journals and letters, called Edlestone Byron's "adopted brother" – a tag that does not adequately account for the passion of the poetry:


Ours too the glance none saw beside;
The smile none else might understand;
The whisper'd thought of hearts allied,
The pressure of the thrilling hand;
The kiss so guiltless and refin'd
That Love each warmer wish forbore;
Those eyes proclaim'd so pure a mind,
Ev'n passion blush'd to plead for more.
Byron left England with some urgency in 1809, probably because some affair threatened to come to light. Byron's confidant John Cam Hobhouse recorded in his diary on June 6, 1810: "messenger arrived from England – bringing a letter from [Francis] Hodgson to B[yron] – tales spread – the Edleston accused of indecency." However Byron may once have struggled against his sexual inclinations, his experiences in Greece and Turkey confirmed his far-ranging sexual appetite. In 1810 Byron had already acquired a new companion, the teenager Nicolo Giraud, whom he made his principal beneficiary in his will. Byron returned to England – which he loathed because of its cant and puritanism – after the death of his mother in 1811, only to learn from Edleston's sister that his boyhood love had died in May that year. It was a greater shock than the death of his mother – indeed, Edleston was only twenty-one when he was felled by consumption – and prompted at least seven moving elegies, including "To Thyrza", "Away, away, ye notes of woe!", "One struggle more, and I am free", "And thou are dead, as young and fair", "If sometimes in the haunts of men", "On a Cornelian Heart Which Was Broken", and a Latin elegy newly discovered and published in 1974, the only poem that uses the masculine gender, "Te, te, care puer! (Thee, beloved boy)", with Edlestone's name written three times at the top. In 1812 Lady Caroline Lamb, mentally unbalanced, insulted Byron by sending him an envelope containing some of her pubic hair together with the inscription "next to Thyrsa Dearest." Byron had given the cornelian heart to Elizabeth Pigot, perhaps just before he left England in 1809, but in October 1811 he requested that it be returned to him as a memorial.

Thou bitter pledge! thou mournful token!
Though painful, welcome to my breast!
Still, still preserve that love unbroken,
Or break the heart to which thou'rt press'd.
The selections begin with a short note written in cypher characters a short time before Byron left Cambridge on June 27, 1807, and translated by Leslie Marchand with the help of an alphabetical key found in his papers.

 

The Albanian word for gay man is dylbër, and there is a long history of homoerotic Albanian poetry, beginning with Nezim Frakulla (1680-1760) whose poems (divans) are addressed to friends and male lovers. You can find this in Robert Elsie's History of Albanian Literature, vol. 1:98-101. The same facts are reported in the Marxist Historia e letërsisë shqiptare (Tirana 1983) pp. 62-66, where it is stated Nje pjesë e mirë e vjershave të Nezimit janë gazele, ku poeti i këndon bukurisėhe dashurisë. Ato gjithashtu trajtojnë një problematikë morale dhe didaksalike, flasin për miqësinë,çmimin e diturisë etj. The euphemistic nature of this language "They likewise treat a set of moral and educational problems, they speak of friendship, esteem, knowledge etc" is like other Victorian circumlocutions about Plato's Symposium, a way of avoiding mention of homosexuality, which is what Nezim's poetry is all about. It is sometimes dismissed as "Oriental" (ie Ottoman) in origin, but the fact that 100 years after Nezim's death the poems were still in circulation, so that Johannes Georg von Hahn could quote them in his Albanesische Studien (Jena 1854) and give an extensive account of gay Albanians and their courtship rituals (which the educated von Hahn could compare with practices described by Strabo and Pausanias for ancient Sparta) indicates that these were not aberrations. Albanian gay culture was observed by John Hobhouse, when he and Lord Byron visited Albania under the Ali Pasha in 1809 and Nigel Hazeltine describes Albanian shepherds courting younger guys in his Scarred Background of 1938. I'm afraid that there is a long gay tradition in Albania that the bourgeois Marxists regime couldn't stamp out.

 

I am no scholar of Byron but he certainly was a most unusual man . I think the title of the Topic is very misleading because whatever the truth of his encounters with the male sex , there is absolutely no doubt that his activity with a huge number of different women is a fact with plenty of children as evidence .
Many suspect he suffered from Bi-Polar disease and that his unusually high energy and appetites occurred during the manic phases of this illness .
Today he might well be described as bi -sexual , but given his problems of childhood , that is hardly surprising .

 

you seem to miss the point. His polyamorous relationship with women is just a cover for his closeted homosexuality..

He was guilty having gay homosexual feelings so he wanted to make himself look like he was some Don Juan "ladys man"...


So he left for the balkans where he had relationship with younger albanian-greek men....

Otherwise, why did he write homo-erotic poetry from his travel?

Apparently he never left a greek or albanian woman pregnant from his travel?

Neither did he write heterosexual poetry in memory of his balkan travels?

 

is a bisexual English poet supposed to be some sort of revelation? what's next? water is wet?

 

I am sure at the end of his life he regretted making women pregnant once he got his foot wet in albania and greece.

 

No , you old Queen .
Have a look at his childhood and early teens .
He was a genuine bi sexual for very obvious reasons .

 

A gay homosexual. Is there any other kind? Maybe a straight homosexual, like Byron. This is not news, btw.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/nov/20/artsandhumanities.arts

 

A Gay homosexual? Do you mean he was happy?

 

he was bisexual , its a fact...

 

He was bisexual but he put more loyalty with homosexuality from his experiences in greece-albania than Ottoman empire.


Did he make any poems about beautiful albanian or greek women?

Apparently NOT !

 

Ok did Lord Byron sire any children in greece or albania like he did in britian?

apparently not....

 

Why are you copying my lines?
See last posts . I charge for jokes!!

 

Lord Byron in Albanian dress painted by Thomas Phillips in 1813. This painting can be viewed at the Venizelos Mansion, which is the British Ambassador's residence in Athens.


Doesn't he look like a boss, guys? or better to say he looks like a reall Arvanite warrior!

 

lord byron had homosexual sex with young albanian and greeks after he got english women pregnant.

he looks like michael jackson in this garb.

 

A gay with Warrior clothes and a sword in his hands?

 

You, stop talking and go suicide cus there is a possibility your nation is going to lose the first place on the suicide rates!

 

Ray, there is a clue in the thread title (the OP stated Byron is a gay homosexual). I am not the thread topic, so I won't bother saying I am neither gay nor a cat nor a cult.

@ the OP, Byron was a romancer. He would have done it with a [edit: no perhaps better not to write that]. Anyway....before Elvis tried anything...Byron tried everything...with anyone...

 

Is Albania heading for the top , Val?
Perhaps your organised crime capos are having tinges of conscience ? Poor little darlings .
Are you still the leading supplier of copy cigarettes into Europe ? Can we fix up a new supply route ? Just you and me ?

 

When you say you are not the Thread Topic , do you mean you are not a Gay person or you are not HS ?
I only ask because number 468 of my top 500 Ray Theories is that the greater the character violence , the greater the likelihood of incipient deviant behaviour .Whether public or private .
Fortunately I am a very quiet and retiring sort of chap without my keyboard .
But I am worried about most other people here , particularly Scottys whose
history is so extreme and violent .

 

my nation is america... America can over run albania in 5 minutes

 

How could you think gays were not better warriors Valmir? Alexander the Great was the greatest warrior and he practiced homosexual sex......

Can you explain me that one??????????


What about the janissary? Homosexual initiation was done to the new christian converts.

 

Would that be the same 5 minutes when you over ran Korea , Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan ?
How come they all gave you a good thrashing ?
The funniest was Somalia in 1993 . They kicked you out in 5 minutes . Somalia .
In fact you have lost every "war" since the English pointed you in the right direction in the forties .
The Albanians would treat you with contempt , just as the Taliban did .
Whatever you say about American soldiers , the word Warrior , would not be used .
Obviously your machinery works , particularly your planes . But the moment the gun loving Yankee Boys are themselves involved , it becomes a running joke .
The mightiest war machine ever .
Only problem , they never win . rofl

 

a homosexual is not necessarily feminized male (i.e male with feminized gestures)