Maine strips Trump from the ballot, inflaming legal war over his candidacy

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  1. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    The left doesn't have the credibility to remind anyone of anything.
    They don't even know what an insurrection is. lol
     
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    I stated it.. you just chose to ignore it. It was to peacefully and patriotically protest their government.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Yeah, uh, no. lol
    This thread is about Maine taking Trump off the ballot.
    Not about federal age regulations. lol
     
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    LoL

    Protest for what ?
     
  5. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Really, lets look
    So you asked
    So according to you, you couldn't divine the information in the answer provided?

    I actually believe you
     
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    I'm not going to re-litigate the 2020 election with you. You continue to claim that the events of 01/06 where an insurrection, yet I've pointed ad nauseam, that there has been zero charges of insurrection and Maine and Colorado are in complete violation of the constitution.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    And that means what exactly
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    You will have to ask the leftist in every forum. But its no different than their apoplectic post every time they come up with a different reason to attack Trump
     
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    There were charges of sedition.

    But I guess that's not bad enough for you.

    MAGAs stick to what they can.

    And the reason the 1/6 rioters were at the Capitol that day was to prevent Mike Pence's certification of the vote.

    And thus, to keep Trump in power.
     
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    Weren't the rioters at the SCOTUS there to stop Kavanaugh from being confirmed?
    Sounds like an insurrection
     
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    Well, that’s your opinion . I’ll wait for the outcome of the trial to make finding a fact.
     
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    You're the one falsely claiming Section 3 of the 14th Amendment covers "any office." That's an interesting conspiracy theory that has no basis in reality.
     
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    that was different; they were Democrat voters
     
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    Did they violently break into the SCOTUS ?
    No, you say ? Sounds like a demonstration, not even a riot.
     
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    That is your conspiracy. Why hasn't Trump been charged with sedition? His impeachment hearing also made no mention of insurgents or sedition.....

    Again.... they won't because it will lose demonstrably in court.
     
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    Schumer made actual threats as well...
     
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    Nor were they escorted.
     
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    He is a Democrat

    do you not understand the difference?
     
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    In reality, several rioters have been convicted of sedition.

    Because he wasn't directly involved in the riot.

    Regarding 1/6, Trump is charged with conspiracy to defraud the US, disenfranchising voters and obstructing a legal process.
     
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    They're not going to agree with the states so, get ready to cry.

    And if they vote the way you want, then what?
     
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    This is an argument that has been made multiple times in this thread. Why I don't know, since it's an extremely dumb one. It's pretty obvious who is a native born citizen (usually) and who is 35 years old. At the time the 14th Amendment was passed, it was also pretty obvious who had served in the Confederate military or the Confederate government.

    But if you want to say that any State Secretary of State can throw a major party candidate off their State's ballot because they committed "insurrection" that opens the door for all major party candidates to be thrown off the ballot since, as we are not having an actual trial to determine insurrection, you could make an argument that anyone is an insurrectionist and get them thrown off the ballot.

    Guess what happens to elections then?
     
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    In reality, section 3 doesn't mention seditious conspiracy. And even if it did you still haven't shown Trump has met that legal bar. Yet another conspiracy theory that ignores reality...

    First Section 3 pertains to "any office" and now this nonsense. It's becoming a full time job refocusing the conversation away from denialist talking points.
     
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    a republican Trump supporter with a badge in the crowd is not surprising, we do have maga folks with badges, does the right think we should fire any maga supporters in government?

    would be like saying Hitler did not do it cause some of his supporters had a badge
     
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    If a Secretary of State or a State Court decides the candidate is prohibited by the 14th Amendment then the candidate has a recourse, which I have no doubt Trump is going to do, get a higher court to look at the arguments and make a ruling.

    You don't have a problem with that do you?
     
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    Oh I do, because once you've entered the moment where it's perfectly acceptable to try to get the opposition candidate tossed off the ballot (which you've indicated you do) then this will never end. It's possible that these crazy attempts at the Putinization of US elections fails, but the damn has been broken on those precious "norms." We'll never go back to normal.
     
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