Manchin Vs. Trump, who would you vote for

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2024 - Joe Manchin Vs Donald Trump, who would you vote for?

  1. Joe Manchin

    24 vote(s)
    64.9%
  2. Donald Trump

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  3. Third Party/Write-in

    4 vote(s)
    10.8%
  4. Would not vote

    2 vote(s)
    5.4%
  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Stop the nonsense.

    More people have left Biden and Harris than Trump. They are fleeing this idiot administration. What they are not doing is getting high paid jobs at Foxnews bashing them.

    Joe Biden is a lying despicable pos but what is more despicable is the ideology they support that is totally racist and anti American.
     
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    I'd vote for Vlad Putin or the bacteria on the turtle crap at the bottom of my aquarium over Trump so this poll question does not tell you much.
     
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    I'm not speaking for @dairyair but I didn't read his post as a negative. Statistically, older people are more likely to die than younger people so that's something to consider for any candidate. Further, younger voters or those that will be eligible in 2024 have a much stronger voice than when you were coming up or I was coming up and that is certainly something any astute campaign manager has to take into account.

    And, thanks to your generation for your contributions to our society.
     
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  4. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Care to back this up with anything?

    Which has nothing to do with Donald Trump being a despicable man who inspires people to turn against him with his disloyalty, immaturity, and self-obsession. That's also what cost him the election in 2020.
     
  5. Starcastle

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    Back this up? You living under a rock? Oh you only watch MSM.

    Over 25 key staffers have quit.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bi...-departed-white-house-senior-roles-since-2021
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rder-trip-announces-leaving-staff-exodus.html
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/31/biden-white-house-black-staffers-00035931
     
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  6. Starcastle

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    Funny I would say the same about Biden.

    I know you libos want China running our country. Anybody who disagrees is a racist!

    Putin is not extreme enough on trans issues.

    Our country was much better off under Trump.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Boomers were in their 20s when the older generation went to the moon. Just because they were alive at the time doesn't mean they actually did it. Same with shuttles etc. Cell phones were invented when Gen-X and Boomers were in their working age, so they deserve split credit. But sure, Boomers were working age during the 1980s and 1990s when economy was booming and lot of things came to be. The internet became a 'thing' in the 1990s thanks to Boomers and Gen-X.
     
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    Your post above is exemplary in its comprehensive description of who we Boomers are, and were. I wish I could do more than merely "like" your effort, so, I'm archiving the post and plan to send it to everyone I still bother to correspond with, for it is truly magnificent in its simple, forthright, accurate eloquence. While it's true that we weren't the 'Greatest Generation' -- the 'Great Depression and World War II people' who were our parents, your description of us is none the less intact....

    I proclaim you "FORUM POSTER EMERITUS".

    [​IMG]
     
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    The last of the boomers was around Bill Gates, Maybe Steve Jobs.

    After that, the X gen started being the main force in worker age groups.

    The boomers are the hippies of the 60s and 70s. Sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
    Not that there's any thing wrong with them. In moderation.
     
  10. Junkieturtle

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    Staff turnover is always to be expected.

    Check out Trump's numbers. There's really no comparison.

    https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-trump-administration/
     
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    Who cares? My point is that no Biden staffer who quit was given money and a job to say bad things about him. I believe many were paid off to bash Trump in including that bimbo who lied about him in front of the Jan 6th committee.
     
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    Okay then. Can you back up both of those claims? I already asked you to do that once and all you did was list people that had quit the Biden administration, and then dismissed the same response from me regarding those who had left the Trump administration. Believe all you want, but if you've got nothing to back it up with there's a good chance it's your bias alone that drives those beliefs.
     
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    Was, as you suggest, Cassidy Hutchinson paid to give testimony to the Jan 6 committee? That's the first I'd heard that, although it seems that the 'bombshell' portions of her recollections were second-hand... sort of that "he said, she said" kind of thing. But, man, if somebody PAID her to testify, then that's crossing a line....
     
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    Of course I cannot prove these people got paid off. I said that's my opinion. That's what a message board is about opinions! When people who were allies of Trump suddenly turn on him and become regular Trump bashers on msm I detect an odor. When a young woman who said she was near suicide when Trump lost the election is now lying about him choking secret service agents I detect an odor. Sorry but I'm operating with more than a brain stem.

    Elites fanatically have helped Joe Biden and attack Trump. We have a bio weapon from China to help Joe Biden. We had the Atlantic publishing an unsourced story(Fiction, lie) that Trump called dead soldiers losers. We have Mark Zuckerberg spending $400M to just help Biden win Wisconsin!

    So yeah I believe these people are not above paying off people and suborning perjury. Damn straight!

    This is not some debate about who retained staff better either.

    Joe Biden would not piss in your mouth if your teeth were on fire but you will bleed and die for him. :-(
     
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    First of all her "testimony" was 100% hearsay and never should have been used. Cheney questioned her as if she was a first hand witness who saw those things. No defense attorney would ever allow that in a criminal court.

    Yes something happened to this woman to cause her to read the Lynn Cheney script(lies). Either she was paid off, threatened or black mailed. Perhaps all of the above.

    Sorry I do not have a cancelled check written to her from George Soros or the bank of China. Sorry I do not have a recording of somebody threatening to kill her family. It is my opinion!
     
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    OK... easy, easy. I wasn't attacking you! Although I think that Trump used really piss-poor judgement in the way he handled that whole thing on 'Jan 6', it doesn't make this kangaroo-court carnival the Democrats have been dragging out for week after week right! I just wondered if some giddy hyperliberal Democrat was careless enough to have been discovered paying for anyone's testimony.

    Even if someone did, based on past performance, I wouldn't expect any of the major "news" media to report on it at all.,, they have much more important things to 'headline' with, like whether Geriatric Joe will score a PR kudo by getting that lesbian basketball player out of Russia! :roll:
     
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    I'm not an expert in a person lying like some 40 year detective but Cassidy Hutchinson was an easy read.

    She looked like one of those hostages from the Iraq war as if she was saying these things with guns pointed at her.

    The most unbelievable testimony you will see. Did not even make sense. She had Trump grabbing a steering wheel and a guy's throat at the same time from the back seat of the beast. WTF?

    But you libos demand proof! Ok Russian collusion proof? Trump calling dead solders losers proof? Of course not. You don't care.
     
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    So, you "looked at" her and determined not only that she was lying, but that she'd been forced to do so?

    *LOL*

    --- and way to focus on the irrelevant part of her testimony.
     
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    BTW, I'd vote for Lance Armstrong's remaining nut over Trump.
     
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    I wouldn't do a damn thing for Joe Biden. I didn't vote for him, and won't be if he runs again in 2024. You will also never see me telling anybody else that they should vote for him, even as a lesser-of-two-evils choice. But for all his faults and inept leadership, he's still preferable to Donald Trump.

    It's far easier to believe that somebody with the immaturity, disloyalty, and attitude problems that Donald Trump has that he has soured plenty of personal and professional relationships to the point that those he has wronged are happy to yell from the mountaintop about the type of person he really is. It's been a common theme when it comes to him for decades, because that's just the type of person he is and has always been. You can dislike Joe Biden all you want for his policies and probable lack of mental acuity but the two men cannot be compared in terms of how they deal with people on a personal and professional level. Biden has never been one to inspire strong feelings of like or dislike because that's just the type of person he is. Donald Trump in that regard is nothing like Joe Biden and because of that, the assumptions one makes about the effect these two men have on those who've worked for and with them have to be tailored to the person they actually are and how they treat people, free from the prejudices that come from liking or disliking the ideologies they espouse.
     
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