Mathematician proves Atheism to be a false idea

Mathematician proves Atheism to be a false idea

Leonardo Pisano Bigollo, known as Fibonacci, was an Italian Mathematician who lived from 1170 to 1250 A.D. He was regarded as perhaps the most talented mathematician of the Middle Ages. He is credited with the discovery of a sequence of numbers that are found everywhere in nature, most commonly referred to as The Fibonacci Numbers.

For example, the sequence begins with the numbers 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233, etc. The sequence continues on infinitely by adding the last two numbers together to get the next higher number. For example 34+55=89, 55+89=144, 89+144=233, etc. When you reach the number 34 and divide it by 55, you get .618. When you divide the number 55 by the number 89, you get .618, and then divide 89 by 144, you get .618, and on and on it goes forever. This .618 number is significant because it is found everywhere in nature. And, I mean EVERYWHERE!

Also, by taking any number in the sequence, beginning with the number 89, and multiplying that number by 1.618, you get the next higher number in the sequence. For example, multiply 89 X 1.618 = 144. 144 X 1.618 = 232.99 (233), etc…

This ratio of 1.618 to 1 has been called the Golden Ratio, the Divine Proportion, even the Fingerprint of God. It is found in everything and everywhere in nature. That’s right, EVERYTHING. It is literally omnipresent.

Check out these little videos below to see what I mean. There are many more educational videos readily available on the internet regarding this interesting subject. Check out a few.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmaVqkR0ZXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uo4Oond1e8

With an understanding of the Fibonacci mathematical numbering sequence found everywhere in nature, you then realize that the only rational conclusion is that some significant form of intelligence must be responsible for such an all pervading form of engineering precision. This naturally makes the position of the Atheist; the idea that the orderliness of the universe did not require ANY intelligent direction now becomes an absurd and obviously false idea.

Fibonacci has proven, mathematically, that not only is an intelligent designer clearly responsible for designing, establishing, and maintaining our universe and all the life within it, but that this mighty creative intelligence is also omnipresent or found everywhere at once. It occupies all space, simultaneously. There is nothing that it isn’t.
It is all that is. Everything consists of it, totally and entirely. All is one.

This means that everything is made of and by this super-intelligent form of energy, including you and me. This fact makes it easier for us to understand what Psalms 82:6 really means. We are all, in fact, gods, children of The Most High.

Atheism is a false philosophy, created by the Illuminati to suppress the truth about our divinity. The Illuminati controllers of our planet created and diligently work to maintain the lie or illusion of their superiority and our inferiority. This lie or illusion helps them justify their many crimes against us. Of course, they will all be perfectly compensated by the Karma they are creating for themselves. The universe is always perfectly fair and just.

The mathematical fact that we are all divine beings shatters their false beliefs in superiority and inferiority. The omnipresence of the ineffable oneness, the divine creative intelligence, the infinite intelligence, the Universal Mind, the Supreme Being, or whatever you wish to call it, makes inferiority and superiority impossible. The oneness cannot be superior or inferior to itself. All is one and one is all. This is the most profound truth we are here to learn.

Therefore, our Illuminati Controllers are operating in Error by believing a false idea. Error is a synonym for evil. This most fundamental error of not knowing who and what WE actually are is the primary cause of all problems.

This most fundamental truth is the primary lesson we all, including the Illuminati, are here to learn.

In reality, we are all brothers and sisters. I bless you all, including the Illuminati, with wisdom and the feelings of love, joy, and peace.

Bruce Winship Wright
Marietta, GA

 

And two times five is ten which "proves" my hands are the hands of God.

 

I will preface my comments with the understand I do believe in God

Why do we need to be so hung up in proving his existence. If we see God as a self evident truth we really dont have to prove anything to anyone

 

I was merely being facetious about the shoddy attempts to somehow establish a correlation between mathematical realities and various religious-philosophical personal preferences.

 

Oh I understand that and like any such comments there is a kernel of truth in your observation. I would have addressed the OP directly but I suspect this is a drive by posting

 

It doesnt prove gods existence at all. It just proves that there is a systematic process to the universe in which we live. God is a term we use when our science does not yet have an explanation. But just because we dont have an explanation doesnt mean there is a god, it simply means we arent smart enough yet to understand it.
We know there are black holes, but we dont understand whats at the bottom or if there even is a bottom. Our little minds cant grasp it yet but that doesnt mean there isnt a scientific explanation. We thought the milky-way was the universe not too long ago and now we find out there are billions and billions of galaxies. Religion like to keep things mysterious as that is how they control people. Everytime we make a scientific breakthrough the goal posts get more and more difficult for religions to move. Fractals are interesting though but to me it just points more and more towards the fact that there is a scientific reason and explanation for everything. Remember when we thought everything revolved around the earth until Copernicus told us otherwise?

 

He just proved there is internal structure to the universe. The question is to whether this is a result of design or as a result of the natural outcome of the physics of the universe.

 

You do realize that math, and the number "0.618" is a human creation, and has no real meaning outside of the brain of human beings, right?

 

Wow. iAwesome, with remarks like that, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why America is circling the drain. You have completely missed the point. The idea I clearly failed in conveying is the idea that the MATH involved in every form of life in the universe, including the spiral of each galaxy, is empirical evidence that the UNIVERSE is not only alive but extremely intelligent. As Einstein's Unified Field, the Buddhist Dharmakaya, the Hindu Brahman, the Tao or the Taoist, and the Christian Kingdom of God all suggest...Omnipresence, Omnipotence, and Omniscience is REAL. All is ONE.

This is the first and most important FACT to realize and accept. This is the sale we still need to make. Otherwise, folks fall for believing in the false ideas or illusions we call superiority, inferiority, separation, lack, and limitation. As you may know, these false beliefs have always served as the primary justifications for war and crimes of every variety.

It's a lot tougher for folks to steal from, rape, and murder members of their own families, isn't it?

The oneness of it all is the biggest sale we still need to make.

 

So you're saying that all reality, even the physical laws of the universe, is a figment of the human imagination? Because that's what you're saying.

 

You should put this bit at the start of your post so that those of us who live in the real world can see right away that your post is insane, rather than wading through half a dozen paragraphs of semi-coherent thoughts before figuring it out.

Someone who believes the Illuminati to be a real thing, and that they are "controllers of our planet" also believes in a supreme being, for which there is no evidence? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

 

I'd be willing to look at evidence that scientists created life from inert ingredients in a lab? Can anyone post that happening?

 

I also thought the sharp deviation into John Birch Society conspiracy theories somewhat weakened the argument.

 

Well technically. Even Einsteins theory of gravity (spacetime fabric) is only just a theory and there are a billion other possibilities out there as to why gravity exists in the first place. Everything human beings "know" could be wrong. 500 years ago, the Earth was flat, afterall.

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You could argue that a computer programmer in the year 5000 created us on his PC. Why wouldn't that be true?

 

The arrogance of humans is amazing. As if we KNOW anything but a fraction of what is to be known. We invented mathematics and used it to demonstrate to ourselves that there are semblances of structure in the universe. Well yes, because we found numbers handy to interpret what was formerly not knowable. But we are still limited by five senses and a big ball of meat called the brain. Try as we might we will never know much more than a little. To infer that we can divine (pun intended) anything other than the surface features of the universe is a bit over the top. As I keep saying, God is an unproven hypothesis, not a fact and not able to be proven with observation or numbers or anything that we currently are able to use. Believe what you will but don't manipulate facts.

 

Mathematics is not INVENTED, it is discovered. We can do nothing to change mathematics, in fact, not even God can change mathematics.

 

My understanding is that mathematics is a process. If that's correct then it's a human invention. If there is another way of looking at it then I would be very glad to hear it because frankly I am ignorant of the details beyond the basics.

 

wow.... you really dont know these things do you?

Craig Venter did it!

http://www.jcvi.org/cms/home/
first page share the sythetic bacteria, created, manmade, from 'inert ingredients' as you put it.

 

man made all methedology to articulate. Words, symbols, math, etc..... all man made.

Mankind is describing nature. Or purely existence is defining itself.

Eventually it is 'named'....

Well actually, i already did! ie... 'name upon the head'

 

golden ratio = natural

If anything, it proves that nature is describable.

defining the process of the 3 (trinity) is the 'name of god'.

And that first to do so, is me.

boo

 

As for meaning, you're right. There has to be someone to appreciate a meaning.

The laws of math however apply in the universe at large, just like the laws of science. For example, any circle will have the exact same proportion between its circumference and the square of its radius. How we define that ratio, like what numbering system we use, could be unique, but the fact that the ratio will correlate will always be the same.

Same thing for c.. Everything, including you, me, a snail or a beam of light move through space-time at the exact same speed, c. If there were no humans to recognize this, it would still be the case. We observe this speed in objects that existed before life on Earth even did. We notice things in the past, that were there long before us, moved like this

Mathematics is like the universal language.

We don't make up the relationship between numbers, rather we observe them. We didn't decide taking three quarters of a pie should leave one quarter. That's just the way it is.

The mathematics themselves are our way of understanding, defining and explaining these natural relationships.

 

No. Just no. The golden ratio is, as you say, very common in nature, but that says nothing of its origin. The golden ratio is the solution to a fairly basic equation, and many things in nature, especially those that have undergone evolution, will go towards the golden ratio. For instance, the shell mentioned in one of the vids lines up in golden ratios because it means no section walls will ever line up and therefore, the shell becomes harder to break. The relation between the golden ratio and god was one made before evolution was understood, so it's no wonder that they decided to call it divine, but that doesn't make it so.

There is also a great confirmation bias. Look, for instance at the example of Mona Lisa in the vid. They choose certain measurements to make. There must be hundreds of possible measurements to make, but they choose and show only the ones that happen to be roughly the golden ratio.

The golden ratio is particularly good for distribution of forces in a beam, for instance, a finger, which is why it appears in fingers. Why people think it's pretty and will put it into architecture, I don't know, but it's hardly an argument for divinity.

 

That's where you're wrong. It is in fact the exact opposite of rational to come to such a definitive and extraordinary conclusion about the entire universe, based on so very little evidence. It's a blatant non-sequitur and invalidates pretty much everything you posted from here on in.

Illumunati? Ah, OK, well, thanks for making it clear from the outset where your bias lies.

 

Oh, it's empirical evidence of something all right, but you don't get to jump to the conclusion that the thing it is evidence of, is intelligent.

 

Hi, just a heads up: Its usually considered a good idea, in a thread, to post something relevant to the actual discussion being had.