Micheal Dunn Charged With First Degree Murder In Slaying of Teen over Loud Music

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  1. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the question isn't if he did it or not. the problem is when we have the rare white on black murder it becomes a national spectacle but with the all so common black on white murders not a peep other then the local news and even then race is barely mentioned if ever

    even with the blatant racial crime of the knock out game. when it became so prevalent and the media couldn't ignore it any more they started to make excuses and dismissing it as not being racial in natural even thou 90% of the crime was black on white or trying to convince their viewers it wasn't a trend even though it was happening in every major city across America
     
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    The media is the only reason that George was ever charged. Sanford FL tried to sweep Trayvon's murder under the rug.
     
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    Dunn asked his neighbor to kill someone who had sued Dunn.

    Dunn is a racist. Just read the letters he wrote from jail or listen to his jailhouse phone calls.

    The entire incident began when Dunn asked that the young men to turn down the music because he was drunk and butthurt after leaving his son's wedding reception early.
     
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    Not over loud music in a public place.

    I am certain that the trial of the former police officer who murdered the father who was texting his daughter in the theater will be all over the news when it begins unless Reeves takes a plea deal.
     
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    I can't agree with you on the manslaughter for Zimmerman because:

    1) He had contacted the police so there was no need for him to follow Trayvon
    2) He knew from the NW that he was not supposed to follow suspicious persons and why ( George was driving an unmarked vehicle and wasn't wearing a uniform) and he didn't identify himself to Trayvon even when he had the chance.
    3) He lied about too many things which makes me believe that he had sinister intentions about Trayvon that night
    4) The anger he expressed during the NEN call makes me believe that he really confronted Trayvon once they came into contact and he forced Trayvon to fight for his life
    5) During the walk-through and during his police interviews George stated that he had Trayvon immobilized before he shot him so he could have kept him like that because the police showed up a few minutes after he murdered Trayvon.
     
  6. Sadanie

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    Wrong again!
    Seems like you're trying for the perfect record! :wink:
     
  7. Roderick2013

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    He saw nothing but expendable 'thugs'.

    Maybe you should read some of Dunn's jailhouse letters sometime--they are chilling.
     
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    You really should get informed before you start spewing your false knowledge.

    The police had no reason to look for a weapon because NO ONE mentioned seeing a weapons, except for Dunn's.

    Even Dunn didn't mention a weapon to " the love of his life" or to ANYONE until AFTER he spoke with an attorney and "conveniently remembered" that he MIGHT have seen some kind of a weapon, a shotgun. . .or a steel pipe!
     
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    I haven't had access to TV or internet for 4 days, so I don't know the details.
    Since it was a hung jury for the killing of Jordan, could't there be a retrial for that part? Or do they think it's not necessary since he is going to jail for a long time anyway?
     
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    I haven't seen the trial, was the teen out of hid car and coming toward Dunn? If he was that could be could possibly be construed as threatening, which could justify deadly force.

    However, shooting at a person or a car with persons in it that is retreating or fleeing, all justification for using force to remove a threat goes out the window. (pun unintentional)

    Personally. I doubt that Dunn was justified in either case.

    He should rot in prison.
     
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    They can retry him on the murder, and have stated that they would...
     
  12. Sadanie

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    Dunn said the kid open his door and he wrote in the letter that the kid "advanced on him." However, the trajectory of the three shots that killed the kid showed that he was INSIDE the car and probably bending down to hide from the shot. The kid couldn't have "advanced" on Dunn anyway, since there was barely enough space between the two parked vehicles to open the doors!

    And, IF the kid had been out of the car, or even attempting to step out of the car, how could he have closed the door behind him when he got shot. . .as the car was moving back to avoid the shots that continued to come?

    Dunn was just "creating" a story to try to have a "SYG" defense.
     
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    More and more it's beginning to look as if the gun owners want to be considered modern samurai with the right of Kirisute Gomen, "to cut down and walk away". What seems strange beyond understanding is that so many of us seem to want to grant it to them.

    Think of it, you look like someone who somebody remembers did him a disservice years ago. He seeks you out and kills you. He's acquitted because he "thought you had a gun" Do you really want that kind of country?
     
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    You are absolutely correct! This is what is so sad about it.

    I believe there really are responsible gun owners. . .the problem is that how do you know who they are. . .or are not?

    Especially when so many of the responsible gun owners remain silent when they see how badly misuse the "right to bear arm" increasingly is! I would feel a lot better and a lot more confident in gun owners' responsibility and good will IF they denounced the many horribly destructive excess of irresponsible gun ownership, instead of either trying to defend them or remain silent!
     
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    The vote was 9-3 to convict but unfortunately the 9 were divided amongst murder1, murder 2 and manslaughter so it's doubtful that even if they would have been able to agree even without the three who wanted to acquit Dunn.
     
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    It bewildered me too. . . but his day has come and Justice is done. He will never see another day of freedom, now that it is a murder one conviction. it will be "life without parole!"

    NO ESCAPE for "good behavior!"
     
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    Do you have any recollection of how the altercation started?
     
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    What's with all the flame baits? Can't we all be civil? I believe that killing people over loud music is stupid. I hope the murderer is tens to loud annoying music for his entire sentence.
     
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    Yes I do. The piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) thug in the right rear passenger seat of the red Durango threatened to kill Mr. Dunn and rape the woman who was with him, and therfore was shot to death.

    Mr. Dunn did society a great service by eliminating the worthless POS thug.

    The violent thug culture promoted by the media's left-wing extremeists is ruining the youths in this country. Especially the black youths. It's turning them into worthless piecies of crap.
     
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    According to who?
    Even if this was true (which it isn't), the incident started because Dunn started a confrontation.

    Please demonstrate what evidence there is that the murder victim was a "worthless POS thug" - apart from his skin color.

    What are you babbling about?! In what way is the "shoot first, ask questions later" aspect of privileged white culture not responsible for this?
     
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    All of the witness testimony.

    Every person who is familiar with the case and has an IQ over 60 knows that.:roll:
     
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    No publically available records indicate that.

    Could you explain why the scumbag in the back seat of the Durango started screaming at Mr. Dunn?
     
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    It was not a van. It was a Dodge Durango.

    From all appearances, Mr. Dunn was shooting at the thug in the right rear passenger seat who threatened to kill him and rape and kill his female companion and started getting out of the vehicle. And then the red Durango suddenly backed up while he was in the process of firing.

    Not all bullets hit their intended targets, especially when the shooter is frightened and the intended target moves suddenly. It's real life, not the movies. The vast majority of people are not sharpshooters.

    Have you ever even fired a handgun?

    And since the Durango fled the scene we will probably never know how many weapons were in it.
     
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    You mean Davis's three friends? I think not.

    Mod edit,,flounder 2
     
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    Really? What about the testimony of Rhonda Rouer?!
    A group of teenagers is minding their own business when some guy walks over to insult them and make demands of them, and you're asking me why one of them might have yelled at him? :roll:
    Even if one of them did yell at him, explain how that justifies a shooting.
     

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