Microbiologist: "They are Killing People with these COVID Vaccines" to Reduce the World's Population

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  1. Bowerbird

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    This is interesting about why some believe in conspiracy theories

    https://www.healthline.com/health/m...es#Why-do-people-believe-conspiracy-theories?
     
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    FTFY:
    Yeah, there's an online campaign going on right now that only trufers are enrolled in. There is no lead nutjob they are all nutjobs. None will ever graduate from the deepest of deep pits of ignorance. There is no paying of attention, only to the batshit that conspiracy nutjobs all over the world routinely spin.
    Instead of paying attention to what, why, when where and how, every single one depends on the endless stream of batshit "news" for their "information" .

    It has been such a great achievement by the antivaxx nutjobs, to suck so many into their trap by spreading more batshit than has ever been spread.
    What's that word again that describes someone who even when there is all the evidence presented, they still can't and won't accept it, it starts with the letter 'T'.

    "TRUTHER"

    It's all there, just have to clear your vision...
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    Aren't you astute? It's about the quote, not the person.
     
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    Bill Gates Admits He Wants To Lower The Population Using Vaccines and Abortion

    If you skip to the 8:22 min mark, you'll hear what the nutter says.
    Stop using fact-checking, they're full of bullshit. Hear it straight from
    the horse's mouth. You'll learn something

    Fact-checking can't help you with this. As he says what he does clearly. And you can't misinterpret it.
     
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    As I said, time will tell. Many young people will have become sterile and others will die from their injuries. The injuries part has already started, or are you ignoring that?
     
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    So are you racial profiling?
     
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    Spam already answered.

    Ok, straight from the horse's mouth, only instead of going to the highly deceptive point you indicated, let's backtrack and find out why he started talking about this from the original source explained for the conspiracy theorists who lack integrity! I find it disgusting that you repost this bullshit without checking any of it. The batshit producer makes his statement and you automatically believed it!

    Here is Gates, talking about his work in more depth:
    With Vaccines, Bill Gates Changes The World Again (forbes.com)
    “I’d be deeply disappointed,” says Gates, if in the next 25 years he can’t lower the death toll by 80%. Otherwise, “we’re just not doing our job very well.”

    "Gates began consuming data that startled him. In society after society, he saw, when the mortality rate falls—specifically, below 10 deaths per 1,000 people—the birth rate follows, and population growth stabilizes. “It goes against common sense,” Gates says. Most parents don’t choose to have eight children because they want to have big families, it turns out, but because they know many of their children will die."

    “If a mother and father know their child is going to live to adulthood, they start to naturally reduce their population size,” says Melinda.

    In terms of giving, Gates did a 180-degree turn. Rather than prevent births, he would aim his billions at saving the kids already born. “We moved pretty heavily into vaccines once we understood that,” says Gates."

    Learn something yourself!

    Let's face it, this guy is actually incapable of learning anything that involves reversing his batshit opinions. Anytime soon, we're all going to start dropping like flies and the birth rate will plummet from all the "sterile" males. Anytime soon. Well, not really, never in fact.
     
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    This is the thing, people such as you can't discern the difference between a "conspiracy theory" and a "conspiracy".
    It is quite astonishing that when the proof is provided and evident it's still ignored. Is it because those who would rather remain in their current state
    because knowing they had been outright deceived, they'd just lose their sh!t.

    Did you know the CIA was the one to originally coin the phrase "conspiracy theory"? As they would use this phrase to discredit, dissuade etc. any and
    all that began asking questions of the official narratives, began uncovering buried truth under the lies.
     
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    I offer this as neither an endorsement, nor a refutation of the arguments presented by this doctor. Keeping my comments brief, for now, as I am pressed for time, the microbiologist's contentions which would be of primary interest, about what mRNA vaccines will do to the body, do not come until about minutes 20 through 28, of the 39 minute video (which I found had a lot of playback stoppages). Whether they have any validity, would depend on one doing a little research, but I know that the first one, is contrary to the mainstream medical explanations of how the vaccine works. This doctor claims that when one's body produces the spike protein, that protein remains on the outside of the cell (whereas I'd thought it was said that these would be ejected into the bloodstream). Rather than this causing an immune response, he says that it will cause blood platelets to attach to the spike (which lead to blood clots).

    The second assertion, which I would need research, as I believe this disagrees with the institutional view, is that just this spike protein, will create "waste" product, indicative of a virus. This does not seem to necessarily follow, at all, though I am not a microbiologist. But if this is true, he is saying that is the thing, which would trigger an immune response, targeting those particular, infected cells (as occurs in a conventional vaccine). He points out the problem, of the most likely cells to take up the vaccine, being the ones lining one's vasculature (which does make sense, to me). So the destruction of these cells, by the body's defenses, he contends, will lead to massive amounts of blood clotting.

    The last part of his (I think overly-hyped) apocalyptic scenario, he does not well explain. He seems to be combining the accepted view of how this vaccine works, with his own. That is, he warns of the potentially lethal consequences of these spike proteins causing clotting in the bloodstream, leading to problems, especially in the brain, due to thrombosis. I think conventional science has admitted that at least clotting, due to these spike proteins in the blood, is a potential effect of the vaccine (though, in those, I believe that the heart is named as the chief concern). However, in that standard view, as I'd said, the spikes have been ejected by the infected cells, which are not then subjected, themselves, to attack from one's immune system. If this doctor's previous contention, that the cells lining the blood vessels will be decimated, by immune cells, though, is correct, then it would seem to me, this should include the destruction of those spiked proteins, which he maintains will remain affixed to the outside of the cell. Nevertheless, my being certain, whether this is all tripe or whether there is anything to his arguments, would require my own doing further research. I would appreciate anyone, who is more knowledgeable than I, in this field, pointing me towards good sites or resources, for investigating the specific claims, I outline.
     
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    Meh! You can't tell the difference between batshit and reality.

    TO you, never from you!

    BY you.

    A question that you urgently need to address.

    Pure irony, he fell for a claim by a conspiracy nut saying that bullshit about the CIA, when it can be disproven in 10 seconds fiat with simple book searches!
    https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/ti...repel-cia-conspiracy-theorist-creation-claim/


    A complete deceptive statement. I use the term out of enforced politeness. My preferred label would be way more accurate and derogatory. Besides, gullible, ignorant, purveyors of batshit don't need to be discredited, their dishonest and fixed behaviour does that already.
     
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    First comment a lie. Not once in your 20 failed years of spamming have you used the "scientific method". Even worse, not one single thing you have ever posted involves a subject that you are even remotely educated in. You rely on batshit sources, lack the expertise to understand this but exhibit the number one conspiracy theorist attribute. You blindly believe any crap because you already made up your mind that it must be true, Then along comes attribute number two. Defend this batshit no matter what, closely followed by idiotic attribute number three. Assume everything from ignorantly labelled "mainstream" sources is wrong.

    Every idiotic conspiracy ever foisted on the world involves a huge number of people - the dumbest part of this whole moronic mess.
     
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    Such a moronic statement. I estimate at least 50 examples where your pathetic sources are shown to go way beyond misinformation, into the realms of disinformation, deliberately deceptive and 100% proven as such. You just run away and pretend it isn't significant. Then, you have the sheer blinkered audacity to spam your idiotic links that a) don't come close to proving you are correct and b) are used by you in a totally dishonest fashion to generalize a point not even proven!

    Would you like me to explain what double standards are? You hold no such accountability to your corrupt sources that you dishonestly blanket apply to anything disputing them.

    You are the opposite of a "truth seeker", you hold no objectivity, critical thinking is not ever used by you, no logic applied:

    See batshit, post batshit, defend it at all costs.
     
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    Show us a few of those examples.
     
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    Who is "us"? You were given a whole list of problems with your deceptive list of athlete deaths and just carried on posting. The fact that you are asking me to resupply your list of failures shows quite clearly the futility of doing so. You have dishonest double standards. Even AFTER demonstrating the first 20 on your list were lies, wrong age, they didn't die! or that the compared to list was only a small selection, your next post put up the damn graph from that list. You then carried on posting the website as if nothing had happened.

    Dozens of posts you make are from back-doctors, NON-doctors, doctors with zero relevant experience - always pointed out to you and you ignore it!
    Dozens of posts you make are just batshit videos with not a single verified fact. Not one. Yet you carry on posting them and making zero attempt to check anything.
    Numerous posts by you are from your batshit sources talking about viruses, yet you claim to sit on the fence about whether viruses exist!?

    You hold no such accountability to your corrupt sources that you dishonestly blanket apply to anything disputing them.
     
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    Post a link to something.
     
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    You're declaring victory prematurely. The bottom line is that the death rate went up at about the time the vaccine rollout began. You can play that down all you want but that shows the vaccine is causing deaths and injuries.
    https://twitter.com/hashtag/DiedSuddenly?src=hashtag_click
     
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    And you are, as always, in total denial whilst using circular batshit logic.

    A total lie. No it did not. Once again you repeat this lie, you avoid every piece of rebuttal showing it to be a lie and you evade the major point of this whole exchange!

    You are being extremely dishonest. Not only has that junk movie been shown to have endless deceptive claims that have been given to you, the link I just posted explains how your whole case relies on a single study that is not even close to concise!


    PolitiFact | 'Died Suddenly' repeats debunked COVID-19 vaccine claims, promotes conspiracy theory

    ALL of the following debunks can be verified as correct!
    Seizures, deaths, depopulation: CheckMate looks into claims made in new anti-vax film Died Suddenly - ABC News
     
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    Here's something about that video that you're forgetting to mention.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-2#post-1073971220
     
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    Look at this guy. That is another of the endless number of pathetic and continuingly dishonest responses. He gets a list of complete lies from his junk disinformation film (deliberately deceptive) and instead of acknowledging it, he highlights a picture in the rebuttal movie where the use of a veterinary image is used as a passing reference!

    Questions:
    Does that film contain a significant number of glaring and dishonest claims?
    Assuming you answered honestly, what manner of "truther" are you to have such appalling double standards!?

    You hold no such accountability to your corrupt sources that you dishonestly blanket apply to anything disputing them.
     
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    A dog's clot was presented as a human clot. Tell us why they would do that.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-2#post-1073972477
    (excerpt)
     
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    Simple error. There are very close similarities.

    You are a complete disgrace. Your whole movie portrays a whole barrage of supposed deaths that are complete fabrications!

    Tell "us" why they would do THAT!? Many times worse. Your sources lie and cheat and you carry on spamming them.

    Questions:
    Does that film contain a significant number of glaring and dishonest claims?
    Assuming you answered honestly, what manner of "truther" are you to have such appalling double standards!?

    You hold no such accountability to your corrupt sources that you dishonestly blanket apply to anything disputing them.
     

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