Militia Mobilizes to Block Arrest of 77-Year-Old Michigan Barber Who Reopened

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jim Crow and the Klan was all Democrats. Learn your history son...
     
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    Jim Crow was followed in GOP Illinois, Iowa, Ohio, Washington, and California.

    You are no tyro, Dispondent. :)
     
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    Exactly. That's why it was a good thing that Anne Frank was turned in by her neighbors. That little lawbreaker, undermining civilization by hiding from the law. Can you believe that they are going to put that criminal, Harriet Tubman, on currency??? Next thing you know, they'll put Rosa Parks on a coin!!

    I mean, you are consistent in your belief that any rule put on paper and then the propery rituals performed by politicians are right and good and moral, correct? That it's inherently immoral to violate a statute, you cannot deny.
     
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    Yea, yea. Being hunted down by an actual army of people who would, at best, claim you as property is totally on the same level as being asked to abide by public health ordinances in the middle of a pandemic. You got me.
     
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    Anne Frank compared to public health requirement is the height of ignorant arrogance.

    She would have worn a mask to avert corona virus without a doubt.
     
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    IOW, they're not isolating. They are going out and contracting the virus, and then taking it home. And prior to symptoms arising, they're infecting a bunch of others at the supermarket and gas station etc.

    When you understand the difference between 'not going out quite so much' and isolation, let me know.
     
  7. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Banned

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    You stated:

    "A national crisis that has killed close to a hundred thousand Americans ...

    and then you asked:

    'Where did you get this idea that crisis are declared depending on the number of dead?"

    The first statement is a descriptive of the second statement.

    In other words, A = A.

    I would suggest Leibniz if you remain confused. It is subtle, if not factual. In other words, it is not Logic 101.
     
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    You asked how people isolating were being infected. I told you.
    You're welcome.
     
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    "Militia"!
    At least these Halloween escapees provided all the rest of us a little humor and street theater.
     
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    "Halloween escapees" militia party pimps!!
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you thinking of Tony Fauci? He is a bureaucrat more than a politician, but a megalomaniac just the same.
     
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    I was mainly thinking of the Democratic governors. Little dictators, ignoring the Constitution.
     
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    "Asked"?

    More like ordered to obey a politician's command.
     
  14. David Landbrecht

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    So, one disagrees and disobeys civily. One is arrested; one goes to court, one's case is found with or without substantiation, and the situation is solved civilly. No guns were injured in the making of this resolution.
     
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    A=A National emergency Declared (pandemic)
    B=A hundred thousand dead

    A Therefore B does not imply that B Therefore A

    Many things can potentially cause tens of thousands dead: Suicide, Cancer, highway accidents, old age.... That does not mean that we declare a national emergency for every one of them

    Which should also be obvious by the fact that the national emergency was declared way before there were anywhere near a hundred thousand dead.

    We create a national emergency to make it easier to respond to an unexpected situation.

    Your "reasoning" (if we could call it that) was complete nonsense.
     
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    Granted, there has not been an adequate response to the road deaths that are purely due to speed. The irresponsibility of drivers of enormously overpowered behemoths is as bad as a war or pestilence.
     
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    Sigh...so you've no idea of Leibniz work in the Law of Identity. Research Leibniz's Law. I can't make you, just as if you choose to stay ignorant I can not help that either.
     
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    Everyone who engages in civil disobedience knows they may get arrested.

    its part of the strategy
     
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    Oh God!

    There are people who just insist on embarrassing themselves. Some sort of "intellectual death-wish" I guess....
     
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    Now too many of them support Open Borders, believe all China Officials, Keep the Churches Closed and the Dope Dispensaries open, Haircuts illegal, release the Felons, jail the Texas Moms!

    LET’S GET BACK TO WORK: New Coronavirus Data Gives Reasons for Hope — and Reopening.

    Remember “14 days to slow the spread?” When social distancing began in earnest in March, political leaders encouraged Americans to stay home, avoid crowds, and minimize their exposure in order to prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Coronavirus hospitalization data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) suggests that early social distancing measures worked. Hospitalization rates peaked in early April, even in hotspots like California and New York. Other conditions used to justify the original lockdowns have also not held steady.

    So why is so much of America still in one phase or another of lockdown? There are good reasons and there are not-so-good reasons.

    First, the data. Justin Hart, a San Diego-area digital strategist, ran the numbers at the CDC’s Emerging Infectious Diseases (EID) project.

    Coronavirus hospitalizations
    “While our leaders fret and our hospitals furlough – the EID COVID-19 numbers are out and they show that the overall hospitalization rates peaked OVER A MONTH AGO on the week of April 5th,” Hart tweeted with a graph showing the trend for New York and California.

    “Note also the massive differences between New York and California overall per week. Given what you can see with your own 2 eyes here does the rhetoric of your leaders and media reflect this? Or do they STILL push an unrelenting, massive, existential threat from [COVID-19]?” he asked.

    Early estimates of the COVID-19 death rate, cited to justify the lockdowns, have proven far too pessimistic. In March, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated a 3.4 percent fatality rate and Dr. Anthony Fauci estimated that the fatality rate of the coronavirus was about 2 percent. As PJ Media’s Matt Margolis reported, at least five studies have placed the death rate below 1 percent, confirming President Donald Trump’s hunch.
     
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    Non-essential procedures have been canceled, draining hospitals of much-needed cash right when hospitals are needed to fight the pandemic.

    No fewer than 500 physicians sent President Donald Trump a letter warning about the health dangers of the lockdowns. “In medical terms, the shutdown was a mass casualty incident,” they wrote.

    The delay in reopening is political. A recent study showed that Democrat governors were three times more likely than Republican governors to impose a lockdown. The study found that “counterintuitively, the percentage of the state’s population infected with COVID-19 had the weakest effect on the governors’ decisions of all the four variables.”

    Democrat governors like Gretchen "Half" Whitmer (D-Mich.) have insisted that they will follow “science” and that reopening has nothing to do with politics or pressing concerns about economic devastation. This is a transparent dodge. Michigan’s Republican-dominated state legislature has sued "Half" Whitmer for her attempt to overrule the legislature and extend her tyrannical lockdown. Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Diane Stephens heard arguments in the case on Friday and has yet to issue a ruling.

    State and local leaders are using the coronavirus to justify a power grab. Left-leaning leaders prefer the technocratic approach of putting health officials in charge of complex decisions that involve far more than just health concerns about the virus. This “progressive” approach overlooks the devastating side-effects of continued lockdowns.

    When Republican governors have issued lockdowns, they have also lifted them. Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) has handled the crisis well, but left-leaning media outlets rush to condemn him and praise Gov. "Grandma Killer" Cuomo (D-N.Y.), whose inaction arguably contributed to the New York City area becoming the U.S. epicenter for the virus.

    Democrats in Congress have repeatedly obstructed relief efforts in an attempt to push their pet projects. Presumptive Democrat nominee Joe Biden has called the coronavirus crisis a “wake-up call” on climate change and an “opportunity” for “structural change” on voting and climate change.

    Lefties tend to prefer extending lockdowns while conservatives are clamoring for the economy to reopen. The data suggests the coronavirus threat is far less dangerous than it appears.
     
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    The covidiots should be arrested and prosecuted. If they use their firearms, they should be shot, if necessary.
     
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    I'd welcome that. As I said earlier:

    The Branch Covidians fear based tactics are starting to collapse. A judge here is Ohio has ruled that the draconian restrictions put into place by our Füher DeWine was unconstitutional. That worthless piece of paper aside, irrational fear is no basis to infringe upon one's rights.
     
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    I could see your point if you acted like you actually cared about people not getting care, but you're upset because hospitals lost out on some cash.
    Propaganda Alert!
    Your "study" sounds like BS. Who the hell needs to do a study of fifty governors? Who the hell would promote the "study?"
    The economic devastation is a largely product of Trump and the Senate Republicans not spending enough money to keep small and medium businesses afloat. Fed Chair Powell made this point on 60 Minutes.
    Uh oh. More Trumpian propaganda.
    Propaganda Alert!
    Trump and the Republicans can force people out of their homes to go to work and get food, but they can't get them out to spend money.
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    Propaganda Alert!

    Trump and the Republicans are stopping government from doing enough to help small- and medium-sized business.
    Propaganda Alert!

    Get a clue. You can force people out of their homes to go to work, look for work, or get food, but you can't make them spend money in the middle of a pandemic. The Idiot-in-Chief is wrecking the economy by opening up businesses likely to spread the virus too soon.
     
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    Then let it be done. Germany fell apart in the early 1930s because people in the middle let the extremists dominate the street. Your goons should be put down hard.
    Trumper drivel. Take a look...
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    People will go out for food, two-thirds for a job, and not enough for much else in terms of keeping the economy going. Add to that worries about having enough money to buy food and we're headed for a far worse recession than we had in 2008-2009. Trump and the Republicans need to pump enough money into the economy to help some businesses mothball their operation, and others to continue operating at reduced output. We could go along like this for a year or more. The government should get unemployed folks enough money to cover their rent or mortgage, and put food on the table. Let's say it ran our debt to $25t from $20t. If at the end of that we have a cure, we can have a rapid return to prosperity. If we're no closer to a treatment or cure, then we can think about shrinking the size of some industries. I think we're bound to get something--a cure, effective treatment, or a vaccine. Something.

    We can use the time to see if we can help some types of businesses to survive in case we don't have a cure. Maybe we can protect air passengers, commuters on urban transit, with PPE. For example, this n100 ventilator with HEPA filters is genuine protection against SARS-CoV-2. If these were widely available, we could get on top of outbreaks fast.

    I'm willing to take the chance we'll get a cure, vaccine, or effective treatment and can have a lot of our old lives back.

    Letting COVID-19 kill as many as a million people as a choice will change society in ways you wouldn't like, just as will creating a nasty recession we don't need to have.
     

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