MOD ALERT Palestinians - Their hatred is the cause of their misery.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Earth is billions of years old. The land belonged to the Jews a million years ago?

    lolol!!!!

    The Palestinians have every right to live in Palestine.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    As a Palestinian, do u prefer to live as a citizen of an Arab country ? Maybe under Shariah Muslim rule ?
    You surely know that the situation of your people ( even with all the propaganda lies ) is very very good
    comapre to other Arabs in the Middle east.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im a Jew, not an Arab.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    As a jew, Why are u saying that Arabs countries and palestinian bedouin attacked your people in 1948 with intension to kill all your
    people ( Jews ) just to prevent the unfair and racist Partition Plan from being implemented ???
    Even the one sided left wing "Haaretz" 50% palestinian newspapers didn't reach your level ...
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if its conquest in 1948 by the arabs, it was also conquest by the jews.
    The partition plan called for both arab and jewish jurisdictions within the borders of the reduced palestinian mandate.
    You may recall that jordan's attempt at annexation failed rather dramatically, and of course egypt outright refused to annex gaza.

    What I find absolutely amazing is that you have this intransigent position that is a total dead end. Israel cannot annex the west bank without making its 1.7 million palestinian arabs Israeli citizens. It is already a travesty of justice with how they are treating the arabs living in the jerusalem annexation.

    Can you explain the end game of your "strategy"? what does Israel do with 1.8 million arabs living in the west bank? There is now way they will "self deport" to any other arab country - so what does Israel do? Convert them? attempt to expel them?

    If the jew haters are to be believed, the jews are not only the most dastardly of peoples, they are also the smartest ((getting away with a two thousand year old conspiracy), and yet there does'nt seem to be any intelligent Israeli that can articulate the end game of the "west bank is ours" strategy.

    I have asked you a couple of times before and got nothing but impractical wet dreams.
     
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    That's exactly how the Palestinians are treated, assassinations genocide, stealing body part of those arrested for throwing stones, white phosphorous onto men women and children.
    The nazis had some morals these degenerate have none.
    Regards
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    Then here is my 'wet dream' to a very articulate Canadian .
    a) ISRAELI ARABS are less than 20% of the population of Israel... (You are too generous with your figures)
    b) If annexation of Judea and Samaria will ever happen, these 20% will have to swear allegiance to Israel, to its flag and sing the Hatikvah... I am sure this will never happen!!! The Alternative is to become Canadian, US citizen or Brazilian... ah I forgot Austraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalian is a nice place to live and swear allegiance to the Australian Hymn.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are currently 1.4 million Israeli arab citizens. There are 2.6 million palestinians living in the west bank (not including israeli settlers).

    The current citizens of Israel who are arab, don't have ot swear alliegance to Israel - they are already citizens.

    WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH THE 2.6 MILLION OTHER ARABS THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE WEST BANK?

    That is what I am talking about when I say that annexation is nothing more than a wet dream.
     
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    Demographics of Israel
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israelrom

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    Demographics of Israel
    Population of Israel since 1949.svg
    Population of Israel since 1949
    Population: 8,012,400 (97th)
    Density: 377/km2 (35th)
    Growth rate: 1.87% [1]
    Birth rate: 18.71 births/1,000 population (101st)
    Death rate: 5.52 deaths/1,000 population (174th)
    Life expectancy: 81.17 years (18th)
    –male: 78.96 years
    –female: 83.49 years
    Fertility rate: 2.65 children born/woman (76th)
    Infant mortality rate: 4.03 deaths/1,000 live births (199th)
    Age structure
    0-14 years: 27.3%
    15-64 years: 62.2%
    65-over: 10.5%
    Sex ratio
    Total: 1.01 male(s)/female
    At birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
    Under 15: 1.05 male(s)/female
    15-64 years: 1.03 male(s)/female
    65-over: 0.78 male(s)/female
    Nationality
    Nationality: Israelis
    Major ethnic: Jews, Arabs
    Minor ethnic: Druze, Maronites, Armenians
    Language
    Official: Hebrew, Arabic
    Spoken: English, Russian

    The demography of Israel is monitored by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics. The State of Israel has a population of approximately 8,012,400 inhabitants as of 31 March 2013.[2] 75.4 percent of them are Jewish (about 6,037,700 individuals), 20.6 percent are Arabs (about 1,656,600 individuals), while the remaining 4 percent (about 318,100 individuals) are defined as "others" (family members of Jewish immigrants who are not registered at the Ministry of Interior as Jews, non-Arab Christians, non-Arab Muslims and residents who do not have an ethnic or religious classification).

    Once again please check your outlandish figures/.
     
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    HBendor- what will you do with the millions of Arabs in Israel and the West Bank?

    >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    don't play dumb games.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Arabs
    In 2006, the official number of Arab residents in Israel was 1,413,500 people, about 20 percent of Israel&#8217;s population. This figure includes 209,000 Arabs (14% of the Israeli-Arab population) in east Jerusalem, also counted in the Palestinian statistics, although 98 percent of East Jerusalem Palestinians have either Israeli residency or Israeli citizenship


    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/we.html

    west bank population including 500,000+ settlements, 2,676,740 (July 2013 est.)

    WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE 2.1 MILLION ARABS THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA?

    Don't screw around with deflection. YOu claim that the Israel spans from the sea to the river.. What happens to the people who live on that land, east of the '48 green line?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he wants to do to the Arabs what the Nazis did to the Jews.

    "ship them to the East"
     
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    Do not play that game Jonsa (with no pejorative)

    What I do intend to do???????????????????????????? N O T H I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am for <ANNEXATION> what happens after that is something that we all anticipate.
    No more threats, insults, stoning, molotov cocktail, killings, thievery and girl harassments.

    Would you like to ad anything to my line of thought???
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if Israel annexes the West Bank they will have to offer citizenship to all Palestinians.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How totally disengenous.

    What happens to the inhabitants of the land Israel annexes? If they become citizens of Israel, then the nature of Israel as a jewish state sorta goes out the window if they majority of citizens aren't jews.

    So what do you do with the 2.1 million people? As it stands right now, you have a "half baked" desire. without dealing with the aftermath, that souffle will never rise.
     
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    he wants to require the Arabs of the West Bank to swear allegiance to "the Jewish State of Israel".

    most will refuse, and therefore won't have the right to vote.

    or he will kick out or kill any Arabs who refuse to swear allegiance.
     
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    Can Palestinian Bedouin take the west bank WITH the fifth column Israeli Arabs ?
     
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    Half baked is your assumption friend... I like many things you advocate, you are most of the time on target, but.............. we differ on demographics.

    There are about 2.1 million Palestinian Arabs in Judea and Samaria/the West Bank and 1.7 million in the Gaza Strip. But Hamas-ruled Gaza vehemently opposes peace negotiations and denies Israel's right to exist. Islamic Jihad and Hamas recently lambasted PA leaders for meeting with Israelis to talk peace. The last time that the PA announced direct talks with Israel, Hamas announced plans to launch terrorist attacks at Israel, in coordination with 12 other Gaza terrorist organizations.

    And it's not even clear that West Bank Palestinians favor these talks. Last Sunday, they rallied against peace until PA police violently suppressed the protest. Human Rights Watch has urged the Palestinian government to investigate the police beatings. Moreover, Abbas himself has no legal mandate, as his term of political office expired long ago yet he continues to rule with no elections in sight.

    At best, the PA can deliver only half of any peace that it promises, which lets Palestinians have their cake and eat it too: the PA can extract painful territorial concessions from Israel at the negotiating table, while Hamas can continue terrorist attacks to achieve the one-state solution embraced on Facebook by PA "peace negotiator" Mohammad Shtayyeh.

    5) Transferring the West Bank could be Israel's geostrategic undoing. Jordan could collapse any day from a flood of about 500,000 Syrian refugees (and growing daily); severe poverty; popular discontent over corruption, inequality, and lack of freedom; acute water shortages; and/or Muslim Brotherhood action to overthrow King Abdullah's monarchy. These factors make the Abdullah regime's survival increasingly uncertain. After Israel militarily withdraws from the West Bank, will Hamas topple the PA there as it did in Gaza (two years after Israel's 2005 Gaza withdrawal)? What if the Hamas-allied Muslim Brotherhood then takes over Jordan? If Jordanian-Palestinians -- the largest ethnic group in Jordan -- create a Palestinian state there (as advocated by this Jordanian-Palestinian writer), would Palestinians effectively have two states? The range and severity of threats to Israel from the combination of a post-Abdullah Jordan and a Palestinian West Bank state are considerable. Is it even possible to address these Israeli security concerns in a way that leaves Palestinian negotiators satisfied enough to sign a peace treaty?

    With so many inherent defects in the current peace talks, why would the U.S. push its most reliable Mideast ally (and the only Middle East democracy) into such perilous waters or inevitable blame? One explanation is the increasingly fashionable idea (promoted by Arab governments) that settlements are blocking a peace deal that would produce Mideast stability. But inconvenient facts completely contradict this idea: Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Bahrain, and Yemen (etc.) would remain the same conflict-torn mess as they are now after any Israeli-Palestinian peace.
    Flame (Facts and Logic about the Middle East)
     
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    why do you keep lying about the Palestinians in Jordan?

    they only make up 1/3rd of the people in Jordan.
     
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    Hbendor,

    I have no illusions about the palestinian civil war and philosphical schism.
    I also do not believe that a nation can exist with two physically seperated provinces when the nation does not have control over any physical link.

    But you continue to evade the question of what to do with the couple million palestinians currently residing in the west bank if Israel annexes it.
     
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    I repeat again without sounding repetitive... NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING!!! Things will evolve by themselves.
    In my estimation the Jews will always be the majority... betting on this one factor only the Jews would have thus pulled the rug from under their feet... They will realize then, they are going nowhere and should adapt/integrate or emigrate.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    MYTH ALERT , MYTH ALERT.
    70% are registered !!! 10-15% more are not ( adds to 85% ) !!

    70% of Jordan's population are Palestinians - wikipedia - by UNRWA.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians_in_Jordan
     
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    Because you haven't a clue about the facts, you might be better sticking to your Zionist media, as goy and being treated like goy, your in the front seat.

    It's very suspicious that when you talk about those AIPAC degenerates, some people are banned or removed from speaking freely on the AIPAC subject unless it the view acceptable to the American media.


    Regards
    Highlander
     
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    Palestinians in Palestine need adapt, integrate,or emigrate, perhaps they should take over the nations those Zionist and Talmud reprobates escaped, there natural European roots!

    Ya want yer Heid examined.

    Highlander
     
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    That's Arabic ? :icon_picknose:
     

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