MOD ALERT Palestinians - Their hatred is the cause of their misery.

Colloquial Scots actually. Now, go for a ball of chalk down the frog and toad, and mind you don't trip down the apples and bang your loaf. I'm off down the rub-a-dub-dub for a Ruby. Cheers me old China.

 

Another piece that someone threw is a jigsaw puzzle box... and does not fit the general picture.

 

I see. How about: http://www.politicalforum.com/middle-east/313440-who-did-invading-borat.html (click) for a rebuttal of that. You yourself made 7 contributions to it.

 

This is AGAIN Palestinian usual moaning. The world is fed up with it. Even the Arab leauge is fed up with palestinian moaning and crying. Palestinians have a big state and it's called Jordan

 

No, the Bedouin do and you haven't even bothered to reply to the rebuttal to your "Palestinians are Bedouin" story.
Mindless provocative repetition with a view to annoyance is called trolling.
From your factless posts, guess what that makes you, MGB.

 

Aye I agree ..... You like to paint a different picture, nothing to do with the subject, or facts, just an artist impression a figment of you're imagination.
Highlander

 

The Bedouins, with their specific values, codes of behaviour, and livelihood, are a Palestinian community of tribes that have a common history, culture, ancestral bloodline, and lifestyle that link the various tribes together.

Bedouin are Palestinians BUT Palestinians are not Bedouin ??

http://www.thisweekinpalestine.com/details.php?id=2212&edid=144

 

Saudi Arabia - 1 132 000 http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-profile.php?rog3=SA&peo3=10758
Israel - 65,000–90,000
Jordan - 780 000 http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-profile.php?peo3=10758&rog3=JO
Egypt - 105 000

There are Bedouin communities in many countries, including Egypt, Syria, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iraq in the Middle East and Morocco, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya in North Africa. Altogether, the Bedouin population numbers about 4 million - http://www.bedawi.com/Bedouin_Culture_EN.html

Israelis are Jewish, but Jews are not Israeli?

Understand now how silly logical fallacies can get?

 

All jews from what i know, are Israelis. If they want to.
Like many others, some prefer to live in other countries for better living, housing, Livelihood etc..

 

Excellent, so given that you did not dispute my facts regarding the Bedouin, I presume that you have no proof that they are a people widely disseminated in the southern ME and that they occupy different geographical and cultural niches to the Palestinians.

That means that your claim that the Palestinians are nomadic bedouin is toast. I smell burning.

 

Can you prove your claim that the Palestinians are not nomadic bedouin ?

 

Easy!!! That was done three weeks ago:

I continue to smell burning.

And I hear rumblings. It is the sound of MYTHs crumbling to rubble.

 

Sorry, read what you wrote - " The Bedouin were then mainly nomadic herders, occupying those dry areas in Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the Negev desert of Israel. In earlier times they were the main people of what is now Jordan"..
If the mijority of Jordanians are Palestinians ... then they are Bedouin.

 

Since when are the majority of the Jordanian of Palestinian origin?
What proof due you have for your glaring "IF"?

You are inventing data which you have been shown to be incorrect. So your entire logical fallacy crumbles, just like the rest of the Zionist MYTHs are collapsing.

The Palestinians are not Bedouin. You have been shown the facts. To mindlessly disrupt thread by repeating refuted facts is trolling.

Please stop it.

 

Read - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians_in_Jordan on the right side .. 70% of Jordan's population are palestinians !!!!

 

I asked you since when are the majority of Jordanians of Palestinian ORIGIN?

You are wriggling like a worm on a line and had to resort to distorting that to pretending that:

1) these displaced people are run-of-the-mill Jordanian citizens. http://frlan.tumblr.com/post/30649500039/the-withdrawal-of-citizenship-from-jordanians-of - check that to see how sick and ill-informed your claim is.

2) and how utterly laughable it is. It meansthat these refugees and their descendants, ethnically cleansed from their ancestral settlements and homeland in what is now Israel by the Zionists and denied forever the right of return, because of their expulsion somehow became the ancestral people of the Jordanian desert highlands.

You are trying to create the ethically abhorrent sandcastle that an entire nation of victims can be stripped of their patrimony; that Israels great crime is somehow now "sanctified" because the agriculturalists of the moist coastal hills were "magically transformed" into the nomadic Bedouin of the desert.

The Palestinians of Judea and Samaria are the Bedouin nomads of eastern Jordan ---- how pathetic. And given their tragic history, it is a disgusting ploy - your should be utterly ashamed.


: "Since when are the majority of the Jordanian population ethnically cleansed refugees of Israeli origin?

LOL -- your reasoning is that because the Zionists

 

Abdulla the dwarf king of Jordan is now an <indian giver> read on :

I wish the Palestinian take over in Jordan... this will be the end of the Arab - Israel confrontation.

 

Thank you for your support, HBendor, that the Palestinians are not welcome in Jordan.

Now try to convince MGB that the Palestinians are not the indigenous people of most of Jordan (except for a narrow strip in the extreme West).

 

"It is far better to keep one's mouth shut and have people believe you're an idiot, than to open it and have any doubt removed". I paraphrase, but I'm sure certain posters get the gist and perhaps should take note...

 

I'll live with that... But the question is why do you open yours then?

 

Not quite so soon... You do not know much on the subject either, so do not point your finger towards others...

TRANSJORDAN IS/WAS A "NO-COUNTRY"!!!

Throughout recorded history there was no distinctive territorial whole, geopolitical or administrative, called "Transjordan." There was no 'core' of unique citizens for this area...The probable reason for Transjordan having no permanent name in past history seems to be that the area was never before a separate and independent entity," stresses Agil Hyder Hasan Abidi in a competent study published in 1965: "Since ancient times its geopolitical location exposed it to various conquerors who occupied it for varying reasons such as security and protection of trade routes." (Jordan. A Political Study 1921-1957, p. 1)

In Biblical times, Transjordan-the Eastern bank of the river Jordan-or parts of it, were generally united with (Cisjordan-Western Palestine). The tribes of, Gad, Reuben and half of Menasheh settled in the mountainous plateau of Gilead; King David subsequently conquered the whole of the East Bank of the Jordan River. Under the reign of King Solomon, the conquests of David were consolidated, but under his weak successors most of the East Bank was lost, or only held temporarily. The area was intermittently conquered and lost by the Hashmoneans, the Maccabim and the Herodian dynasty. From the fifth to the seventh century C.E., the Transjordan area was under Roman authority. It was overrun by Moslem invaders in 635, and, after a brief interlude (1115-81) of Crusader rule, reverted to Moslem domination, first of the Mamelukes, and later (since 1517) of the Turks who administered it as part of the Ottoman Empire for 400 years.

The area's internal history under the Turkish rule, until the beginning of the XIX century, was characterized mainly by tribal feuds and family rivalries. In 1831, the entire left bank of the Jordan River, together with the whole of Syria, was conquered by Ibrahim Pasha's Egyptian army. When, in 1834, Ibrahim ordered a conscript levy, local Arabs revolted and, together with rebels from Hebron, Nablus and Bethlehem, invaded and looted Jerusalem.

In 1841, the great European Powers restored Ottoman rule which was, however, only partial. Not before 1865 did the Turks succeed in establishing their authority in the north, and only about thirty years later did they penetrate into the southern part of Transjordan, which until then had been dominated by Bedouin chieftains.Nomads and semi Nomads. The Transjordan territory did not even form an administrative entity. From 1894 until World War 1, it was incorporated into the Vilayet (province) of Syria, its northern part roughly corresponding to the Casa (sub-district) of Ajlun, while the central and southern parts corresponded to the Sanjak (district) of Kerak.

To be continued

 

But HB, you posted 2 days ago that the Palestinians were in Jordan on a diaspora, and that they were not welcome. Now you claim "Not quite so soon!!"

Can you make up your mind please. Your flip-flopping is disruptive to this thread

 

Palestinians - Their hatred is the cause of their misery.

 

Troll!!

 

MGB, have you seen this?

The MYTHs are crumbling. Even the Apologists have disparate stories now.