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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    So you agree I proved the flag isn't solely about sexuality? Cool.
     
  2. ToughTalk

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    I stand by my original assessment of which you have verified with your own posts.

    Nothing's changed.
     
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    You're right, your opinion doesn't change any of the facts.

    Such as your "opinion" that gay and trans people are "mentally ill" does not change the fact that they are not.
     
  4. ECA

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    You mean besides your post that I highlighted to you showing the flag is not solely about sexuality???

    Thanks for playing...hahahahahahahaha
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I already knew you would attempt to use false statements and personal attacks to avoid discussing the topic. I made no such report.

    I respect your opinion on what the symbol means, however people have their own ideas. I have no issues with displaying the pride flag. My only issue is with the precedent it sets. A religious teacher may push the belief that we were all born sinners because a snake talked a naked lady into eating an apple thousands of years before we were born. I respect the beliefs, but oppose using ones position and influence to push it on children in public schools.

    The same way wearing a cross does not make one a good Christian, a symbol on the wall is no substitute for treating people with respect. It serves no purpose and opens the door for other forms of exploiting ones position for the purpose of pushing beliefs.

    A teachers job is hard enough without adding more issues.
     
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    Let me highlight the important descriptor parts you glossed over.

    "rainbow flag or pride flag is a symbol of LGBT pride and LGBT social movements. The colors reflect the diversity of the LGBT community and the spectrum of human sexuality and gender"

    "LGBT is an initialism that stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender". In use since the 1990s, the initialism, as well as some of its common variants, functions as an umbrella term for marginalized sexualities and gender identities.[1]"

    See? Nothing's changed. I stand by my descriptor of the flag. It has no place promoting sexuality at our schools.

    Indeed. THANKS FOR PLAYING.

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    Of course you stand by it because you can’t admit you’re wrong. The flag stands for more than just sexuality as proved by your own post.

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  8. ToughTalk

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    You literally glossed over the descriptor of all those events as to what makes them different to other events. And that difference was that they were LGBT events. LGBT means how you sexually identify.

    The fact you willfully glossed over the actual descriptor says more about your willful ignorance than anything.
     
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    The issue was about what the flag represents. You’re wrong that it only represents sexuality. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  10. ToughTalk

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    LOL do you think you have a point by saying "the flag doesn't represent sexuality because it also represents sexual events and sexual social movements?"

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    I never claimed it doesn’t represent sexuality. I claimed it doesn’t solely represent sexuality. But nice to see you’re resorting to being disingenuous making false claims about what I’ve said. You should have quit while you were behind.
     
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    So should straight teachers be forbidden from wearing wedding rings or having photos of their partners around? I disagree.
     
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    The DESCRIPTOR of the events and social movements IS SEXUALITY. Good lord man.
     
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    Transgenderism isn't a sexuality.
     
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    You are not transitioning from a human to a dog. You are transitioning from a MAN to a WOMAN. Your SEXUAL identity. Shall I be forced to go to the trans wiki now so you can understand what "trans" means?
     
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    No. You are getting treatment to better align with your GENDER identity. It isn't about sexual activity, which is what you initially claimed. But, hey, at least we both agree you have more reading to do.
     
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    And now you’re moving the goalpost. How cute.

    This was your claim…
    It’s been proved you’re categorically wrong. Hell, you even proved it with one of your own posts. I won’t think any less of you if you admit you’re wrong or stopped replying on this subject.
     
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    And more understanding of what he reads.
     
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    Do you recognize that one makes the classroom feel more safe for students while the other makes it feel more hostile?

    Also, how does the presence of the flag "push [beliefs]" on children? What do you mean by that?

    It's not a substitute. It's a signal that queer students can anticipate being treated with the same respect that non-queer kids experience. And what exactly do you think it opens the door for? Do you have an example?
     
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  20. ToughTalk

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    What's the difference between a lesbian and a hedrosexual woman? Without having to look it up.

    The Pride flag represents the LGBT community. Without cheating...what does LGBT mean and how do they differ from others?

    lol.
     
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    I've read fine and understand what LGBT stands for.
     
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    You were really quick to run away and hide from what we were previously talking about -- transgenderism -- but don't worry. We both know why you can't talk about that and why you are now desperate to hide. So let's go to your hiding spot. A lesbian woman is attracted to other women. A heterosexual woman is attracted to men. If attraction must be erased from the classroom, then all teachers must remove their wedding rings and remove any photos of them with their spouse. You promoted this before, but I still disagree with it.
     
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    Ya that doesn't fly either.

    You are trying to transition...from one gender identity to another gender identity. What is the difference between a trans man and a tom boy?

    ;)

    I'll give you a hint. It has to do with your sexual identity and how you perceive yourself. Hence the TRANSITION from one sexual identity to the other.

    You still can't escape the fact that the flag, has to do with sex.

    Notice how you ran away from describing the difference between a lesbian and a hedrosexual female? lol

    So since the flag has to do with sex, and whom you like to have sex with. I want my "loves to give woman oral pleasure" flag.
     
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    No. They aren't changing their gender identity. They already identify with the gender.

    I appreciate your talent for being wrong again.

    Because being trans isn't inherently sexual. YOUR sexual hangup with trans people is not my problem.

    While I appreciate that you are enough of a real man to enjoy that particular hobby, even though so many men on the right deride it as being "submissive," the flag isn't about who you have sex with or what sexual activity you engage in. Hell, part of the flag celebrates people WHO DON'T WANT ANY SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT ALL.
     
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  25. ECA

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    This is where I disagree. They are changing the gender they were born as. If we’re now going to say people born with a penis can either be male or female then as a society we’ve jumped the shark.
     

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