Monotheism is a lie

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  1. Interaktive

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    Monotheism is a lie
    do you agree
    because there is the Tanakh, the Bible, the Koran, the Gita
    each nation has its own god
    there is no single god
     
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    These posts by this member appear to be AI generated, and I think it is killing this subforum.
     
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    AI's are obviously programmed by incel morons. No wonder the tech industry is so enthusiastic over them; they've finally created their emotional and intellectual superiors. They can now have conversations with their realistic sex dolls.
     
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    Many assert these are all facets or different interpretations of a single god. On the other hand, there is no evidence that any god of any kind exists.
     
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    then, I believe in God, but not in heaven and hell
    it is the only god
     
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    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    Pretty sure an AI could do way better than that. They can do grammar, punctuation, and coherent argument.
     
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    Depends on the programming level of the AI not. Not everyone can program a Chat GPT.
     
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    All religions are based upon myths and superstitions which include a panoply of deities who were the Stone Age equivalent of superheroes.
     
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    There is a difference between being a lie and being wrong. Monotheism at its most basic is the worship of a single deity. The religion around that worship may or may not claim that its deity is the only one. Polytheism on the other hand has multiple deities within its religion. Again the number of deities within a given religion does not by itself indicate whether there are other deities or not. A lack of belief in a deity does not automatically cause the deity to not exist. One can be wrong about other deities not existing and one can be wrong about their deity existing.

    Further, when looking at a single religion, different groups within the religion can make different claims about what the deity can or can't do and will or won't do, and what different parts of the writ mean, but they are still talking about only the one deity. By their tenets, Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same deity, although they all present Him differently both between each other and within their own umbrella religions.

    A lie is intentionally presenting one thing that you know to be untrue, as if it were true. If you believe something to be true, then it's not a lie even if it is not true. As an example: I am 53 (well a month shy but close enough). If I tell you I am 40 and then you tell another person I am 40, I lied but you didn't. You are wrong, but because you actually believe it, it's not a lie.
     
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    With God being the greatest, then there can only be one true God. Ironically, he dwells in lowliness or humility. How better to overcome the world and death than by leaving his throne, taking upon himself flesh, setting aside dignity and pride, going below all things, and rising again from the grave for the rescue of mankind. It being the cause of love, then what of it is worthy of mockery or derision?
     
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    It’s interesting that you view Jesus as God. Isn’t the Church of Latter Day Saints non-Nicaean?
     
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    Personally I don't know that there is a difference in spirit between the Father and Son. The first article of faith(out of thirteen articles) of the LDS Church is: We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. So to me, it is a distinction without a difference. They are all God to me. Jesus was so close to the Father that he shared in power and glory by his side. All things the Father commanded were carried out by Jesus, including the creation. So when the Father sent Jesus to take upon himself flesh, he left his place of honor and glory and took upon himself a body of flesh like us. That's my Magoo view.
     
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    Yes, there are a lot of people who are attracted to some form of Christianity.

    If one considers the Abrahamic faiths as a whole, one brings in a significantly larger number of people, leaving south and east Asia. Of course, those are highly populated regions.

    But, if we could get Christianity to kiss and make up with Islam, that would make a HUGE difference, at least in a couple generations.
     
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    The stone age nay sayers are not filtered out by modernity.
     
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    Only because the modern believers in Stone Age myths and superstitions are still around.
     
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    More religious people tend to be better educated and economically better off than the demographics of assorted deviants, sociopaths, and atheists. I don't think Da Evul Xians need concern themselves with whether or not their enemies approve of them or spend much time arguing with them.
     
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    Why not just say you think all Christians should commit suicide just to make you feel better?
     
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    it does not make sense that if you are rich, then God loves you
    this is not healthy
     
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    Better off economically doesn't necessarily mean wealthy.
     
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    Regarding the Gita, some Hindu branches and traditions hold that all the gods are really manifestations of one supreme God, and that they are inferior.
     
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    For anyone who has ever tried communicating to an AI, superficially it seems very much like talking to a real person except that person is a very immature 16 year old, who is very rude, will not always give direct answers to the point, and seems like they have probably been smoking cannabis or drinking.
     
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    Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead
    What do the commandments of the Tanakh and the Bible have to do with it?
     
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    Same solar system as well. But we don't dismiss it. God is real, he lives and is divine. I know of myself that this is true. That you don't know it to be true, takes nothing away from the truth. To not know is evidence of your ignorance. But then to, in your ignorance, presume to call the truth a myth, is to speak foolishness, which is the fruit of superstition. So the stone age myth and superstition is yours and of your kind, don't you see. You close your eyes and say the truth doesn't exist, as if to be blind is to become invisible to the truth, such that nobody can see you hiding. It is magical tinkering, so as to hide from your own self. To say otherwise is to prophecy doom for the glory of darkness.

    Jesus Christ said: "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!" Matthew 6:22-23
     
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    Regarding uniting Christianity and Islam, traditional Christianity is itself disparate within itself. It is tens of thousands of differing denominations with no two alike in origin, title, interpretation and understanding. So even taking the Bible as the standard, traditional Christianity may as well be tens of thousands of different Christs and Gospels. Due to all the variances, there is no benchmark of truth in it. I'm not putting it down, just stating that which is self evident.
     
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    Good points. And, that's not going to change anytime soon.

    I really didn't like the anti-Muslim fervor that was a part of our decision to invade Iraq, etc. That came at a time when my wife and I were studying Arabic, making a life long friendship with a Sufi Imam. He, a Rabbi and a priest worked for some time as a team dedicated to religious outreach with an open willingness to discuss the hard problems.
     
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