Monotheism is a lie

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  1. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

    Dirty Rotten Imbecile Well-Known Member

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    Did Jesus want people to worship him as God?
     
  2. Derideo_Te

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    Meaningless Sermon NONRESPONSIVE to the ORIGINS of religion.
     
  3. Maquiscat

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    This is also true of Judaism and Islam.
     
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    I think he wants us to do the Fathers will using himself and his gospel of repentance as the example. His gospel is the Fathers gospel. So to follow him and his gospel is to follow the Father and his gospel. Here for me is where the line gets blurred, and I begin to not see the distinction between the Father and Son aside from Jesus's physical mission. He is the Savior, the only begotten Son of the living God.

    It seems reasonable to me that God is perfect, and there is no contradiction, confusion, disorder, or lack of understanding with God. So if these matters exist, they are mine. Therefore over time or the process of unfolding, with the exercise of faith, I will come to know better and see more clearly, the ways of God and heaven, and comport myself to the truth along the way, as one can't arrive without having made the journey, and exercised the myriad characteristics of ones higher nature.
     
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    Suppose there's multiple gods, but you worship one and hate the others. Is that monotheism or polytheism?
     
  6. Interaktive

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    there are independent gods, like independent peoples
     
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    I believe you. It is like a vast marketplace of counterfeiters. They hold up the original documents for vindication as if it were their calling and duty to lie. It is a very strange thing.
     
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    Jesus was trans because angels are sexless and with only Mary's DNA where did the XY chromosome come from?

    Then there are teachings of Jesus which are EXACTLY what WOMEN say and do. Be kind, love others, care for the poor and sick, be a good person, share your food with others, etc, etc, etc.

    Your deity is FEMALE, her "son" is trans, your entire religion is based upon teachings of what it means to be a WOMAN.

    But because men are stubborn to the point of arrogant stupidity, the Wise Woman (who is actually your deity) allowed her DAUGHTER to EXPLAIN how everyone is supposed to be kind to each other. However the fragile egos of the men couldn't handle being told what to do by a female so the men decided to kill her instead.

    The rest is HIStory but HERstory is the only one that matters.
     
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    If the truth is only what is seen, heard, and a matter of appearance. Then there is no hope for tomorrow, no faith to realize or accomplish, and no love between people, because these things are spiritual gifts from God, and can't be seen, heard, shown, or measured in essence. So to say that faith, hope and love are vain, is to prophecy doom, like a child of hell in free fall from grace.
     
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    That's why there is a "G"od who allowed the creation of other "gods". He did it because He gave you a choice! Serve Him or serve them!
     
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    Though what you say is true, the Body of Christ is alive and well. The gates of hell will not prevail against it!
     
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    It's still monotheism. I made that point several posts back. It's irrelevant whether you believe in deities outside of your religion or not. It's the number of deities you worship that count towards whether you are monotheistic or polytheistic
     
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    You do understand that the definition of a miracle is an event that defies the known laws of nature, right?
     
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    What do you mean by 'independent gods'?
     
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    each god is a separate world
     
  16. Injeun

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    Is sounds to me like you have a major issue with your Parents relationship, or perhaps it is one of your Parents issues with their own Parents, which has put you in a psychological bind because of their abuse of you. And you've imagined a fantasy to avoid addressing the truth. Now you think that the world, rather than yourself, is in need of counseling. And you go so far as to presume to rewrite the history of a six thousand year old religion, and the place of Fathers and Mothers in society, so as to secure the unsustainable fantasy which you've imagined to deal with your own personal problem.
     
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    Don’t forget what happened with the copper snake.
     
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    Sorry, you lost me.
     
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    John 3:14,15
     
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    Those who refused to simply look up, perished? I still don't understand why they'd do that.
     
  21. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

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    You have to go back to the story of what happened with the snake. The snake provided salvation so people began worshipping it. It’s like in Nehemiah I think. The footnote in most bibles takes you to it.
     
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    CLASSIC attempt to MOVE the GOALPOSTS!

    NOWHERE have I posted anything REMOTELY akin to the BASELESS allegations above.

    Hillarious that you cannot deal with the ORIGINS of myths and superstitions.

    https://www.newworldencyclopedia.or...titious beliefs,could be influenced by action.

     
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    The mystery is that modern people have concepts of "God" that more resemble Santa !Claus than what the all-powerful creator of this immensely elaborate universe would have to be. Praying to win a game or acquire material things is common, and contemptable.
    Could what one's diet consists of or whether women are entirely wrapped in fabric matter to such a "One"?
     
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    That, and the fact that Jesus partied with rich people, and a rich guy paid for his tomb, mean the programmers don't know squat about the NT nor the meanings of words.
     
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    I'm sure you are familiar with this passage, Injeun, but I only bring it up to bolster your faith and anyone else that sincerely is seeking. Phillipians 2:6-21 describes for me the "mission" to a "T". The purpose for "the only begotten Son of God." Those that are seeking will look it up.
     
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