MOON LANDINGS 'FAKE': Shock video shows 'Stanley Kubrick' admit historic event was 'H

It's been proven they couldn't have survived back then and maybe not even today.

Nasa's explanation that they sped them up then shot them through a narrow part of the belt is completely ludicrous, radiation doesn't work like that but like you said, NASA says it and people stupidly nod their heads in agreement.

The radiation problem is actually all the proof anyone needs to know we never went there.

 

Show me.

That is one hell of a distortion of what occurred. The rocket was not "sped up", it didn't travel through a "narrow part" of the belt and even if that did occur it is not ludicrous. As part of the trans lunar injection burn, the rocket is pushed up to escape velocity. It took an elevated 30 degree trajectory passing through the weakest areas of the belts, Protons are going to do nothing, so the inner belt is harmless. The outer part of the outer belt is no more dangerous than standing next to a microwave. If you spend time there it will cause problems, but not 1hr and in a very well insulated craft.

How does it work?

It appears hoax nuts are the ones nodding in agreement - with the intellectually challenged fools who dispute the original accounts.

Incorrect. It is no more proof than any of the other horseshit presented.

I love the way you people drag every thread off topic. This is about the idiotic claim concerning the satirical Kubrick movie.[/quote]

 

I was about 6 years old when the moon landing occurred.
Even when I was watching it "live" on tv at that age, I noticed many telltale signs that it was fake.

I still personally think it was faked, but I'm all about solid proof. And as much as I would like to believe it was faked, there just isn't any rock solid proof one way or the other.


The OP posted a link that apparently Youtube took down.

But this guy tweeks on the subject......and he's pretty funny....

 

Your personal observations are worth nothing and your lack of knowledge on the subject is startling. There is 842lbs of lunar rocks and soil.
for one thing that is impossible to fake.

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There is an astonishing amount of evidence proving we landed 6 times, not least 50 hours of unfakable video.

 

Rocks can be faked. This whole planet is made of all kinds of rocks, including some man-made ones.
I'm sure my knowledge is limited for the fact I don't dedicate my life to conspiracy theories, they are only a hobby for me.
I'm sure I've missed tons of information out there. But 99% of all info I've seen so far during my life, regarding the moon landing, can be taken either way............including the last documentary I watched, which was about ex-Nasa employees purposely altering film taken in space, of the moon, and supposedly on the moon itself.

 

No they cannot.

And all subject to atmospheric weathering, zero exposure to solar isotopes, no exposure to micro-meteorite bombardment and a whole host of trace elements.

That should be your starting point. You don't have the knowledge to make your previous statements.

Including relevant education.

Anything can be taken either way when you lack the understanding. If you understand physics and gravity, one 5 second piece of footage is all the proof you need. Your documentary was probably made by somebody equally as lacking in understanding and/or cherry picked made up hogwash.

 

Be sure to read post #9.

I agree.

http://www.geschichteinchronologie.com/atmosphaerenfahrt/28_moon-stones-from-Earth-ENGL.html
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"Moonstones" have no possibility to be compared on moon itself, because there is no possibility of a neutral control on the "moon". So, it's permitted for anybody to claim this or that stone would come from the "moon". Also when certain "moon probes" are said having landed on the moon also this is not controllable. And it's not possible to control if these "moon probes" have brought stones or dust from the "moon" to the Earth or not either. At the end the super powers "USA" and "SU" claim together to the public that "moonstones" would be "very similar" to "Earth stones". This "similarity" brings up some new questions (Wisnewski, p.209).
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MoonFaker: Exhibit D. PART 5.


MoonFaker: Rocks & Crocks. PART 1.

I've never seen any footage that was unfakable. Can you link to some of it so that we can talk about whether it's really unfakable?

 

Then dismiss it because the spammer who wrote it is deluded. Magic bouncing dirt when clearly and totally obviously the wave can be seen to track in the correct frame to land as it does. This single clip proves he is on the Moon. This is the only reason the forum spammer denies it.

Irrelevant. You are an ignorant layman on the subject.

Idiotic spam that does not address the issues around the rocks brought back.

Earth rocks always show signs of terrestrial weathering, the Apollo samples do not. Earth rocks also contain no solar isotopes. This includes fine layers of helium 3 on the edges that exclude the possibility of them being meteorites.
Many have exteriors peppered with tiny micro-meteorites also excluding them from being meteorites landing on Earth.

The samples have been examined by every major geologist on the planet. Authentic by 100% consensus. But of course a moron would say they are all lying.

More ignorant and irrelevant spam. Neither addresses the raised issues and concentrate on minor issues with cabin contamination of some samples. This fool also fails to understand what oxidation is.

Liar. You've seen it you just deny it. Cernan jumping is one of thousands. In your Spam film a flat surface clearly fails to move copious amounts of dust as it falls. Vacuum proven.

You are incapable of honest debate:-
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/?m=1

 

Go ahead and obfuscate away. This one is too obvious. You totally destroyed your credibility when you started that thread. No one who takes the time to see what you did is going to take you seriously.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-they-are-on-the-moon.580330/#post-1072162665

You're all washed up.

 

You are one of the sickest people on the internet. Even when presented with the most obvious of obvious things you still play idiotic games.

When the "judge" of my credibility is one of the most ignorant and dishonest people you can find, that can safely be discarded with the rest of his idiotic spam.

You aren't the spokesperson for other people, particularly when it is impossible to find one as dishonest as you.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-they-are-on-the-moon.580330/#post-1072162665

Cosmored/Fatfreddy88/Drifty/Scott/Rocky has a whole series of evasion tactics :-

1. For images or video: "Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be fake."

He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own images and videos. He will never actually prove it is faked or offer the number of people involved in such.

2. For websites: "It's possible that your sites are genuine and it's possible that some public-relations agency created them to help fool the public. Something that may or may not be bogus can't be used as proof." Source.
or
"That's a disinfo site."

He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own appallingly inept websites. He will never address any website that solidly refutes his claims. He never offers any proof that any website is "disinfo" or "public-relations".

3. For Expert Testimony: "Only a person with a high background in photography would be able to deal with it "

For "photography" insert anything. He is a layman on everything associated with space travel so uses this evasion tactic frequently. Basically if he doesn't understand it, it is ignored and of course the person providing the information must automatically be in on the moronic hoax.

4. For Rebuttal: "...so we already know what you posted is sophistry. "
or
"I can't say I'm one hundred percent sure he's a paid disinfo agent but his behavior fits the profile perfectly."

This enables him to completely ignore any response, which he routinely does anyway, but throws this in for effect. Needless to say, he will never offer anything to backup his ad hominem statement.

5. Miscellaneous: ".anyone who sees it will see that he's just a paid sophist."

This is probably the worst one of all. For this enormous diversionary statement, he gets to ignore every single thing written by an expert in almost every aspect of the Apollo Missions. He gets to ignore a concise website detailing debunks for almost all his total crap. He gets to ignore every post made where he always get his ass handed to him. The basis for this is his "credibility test".

6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.

7. When all else fails: "I think the rest are moot now that you`ve been discredited and there are a lot of clear anomalies that prove the footage ...."

So when he routinely gets his claim debunked, it is "moot" because of "all the others". It never occurs to him that all the other evidence has been debunked and was also "moot" when it was addressed. When pushed to provide a list of items to address, at all costs he will not do this because it can be seen where they have all been debunked.

8. Just deny everything: "I've never seen it debunked. I've seen people try to obfuscate it and then consider it to have been debunked."

He's never seen ANYTHING debunked? An utterly ludicrous statement that he uses based on his own inept layman understanding. His ignorance apart, he seeks to pigeon hole every single debunk into responses that he says are diversion, because he says so.

9. Idiotic Closes: "You'd get laughed out of the debating hall ..."

or

"you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video"

The sheer irony of this is always lost on him. If ever there was somebody who behaved like the Black Knight - as his arm gets chopped off it's a "moot point" it would be this serial forum spammer. There is not a debating environment on this planet where this person would show up to. He knows more than anyone that he would get the floor wiped with his drivel.

10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.

This person has been doing all of the above across 100's of forums for (best guess) coming up to 17 years. He cuts and pastes duplicate posts, responses, key phrases and dismissal videos. He determines any one or more of the above and posts them out, then slams a huge post with repeated and debunked bullshit. There is simply no level of response that can get through to somebody who has terminal Dunning and Kruger syndrome.


In this instance, he has no knowledge of rocks, just his idiotic website he doesn't understand and the series of idiotic videos that pretty much ignore the evidence. For him, that's pretty much all he can do.

 

Well, aren't you just a little ray of sunshine!!

Obviously you're a Liberal, since you like to "slice and dice" people you've never met, have never talked to, and have never been courteous enough to, to grasp any concept of their knowledge, schooling, training, or mental acuity. Manners and etiquette, as well as simple social respect and courtesy is obviously not in your repertoire.

It's been my personal experience in life that intelligent people help others learn.......self-serving, arrogant narcissists belittle others to puff up their own egos.

 

Take your sweeping insulting politics to the other forums. You just labelled every single Liberal with the same uninformed observation.

Used to be, but I got tired of doing that to conspiracy theorists only to get it ignored and more garbage thrown back. Besides, your comment addressed indirectly to all Liberals demonstrates you suffer from this deficiency yourself.

You've already demonstrated a fairly poor grasp of personal experience so far with your inept observations - as they relate directly to the observations I've made, I tend to stand by my comments. Get over yourself it's hardly a lunch date at Le Bernardin!

 

You do not have a shred of proof and have never posted any.

All of your so called evidence has been debunked crushed and shredded with a real mountin of facts and evidence making your claims a follish delusion.

You know all this is true and so does any one who has read any thread you have posted on.

It is proven the landings were real and you CANNOT post or cite any evidence to the contray all you can do is wash rinse and repeat the crap which has been proven false.

 

There are no anamolies and there is no proof it was done in a studio.

Your claims have long since been proven lies. Anyone responsing to you has put forth massive proof that they are not anamolies and you know this.

You are simply stating lies.

 

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They do not and all viewers know you have been owned and proven wrong.

 

The viewers universally know that you are exclusively the one who lies and obfuscates and has been proven wrong.

The landings were real as was the chinese spacewalk and you know it.

 

Nothing of the sort has ever been proven.

NAS stated fact and yes it does work like that.

You are massively ignorant and uninformed of how it works.

There is no evidence of any kind supporting the disgusting and foolish conspiracy theories were faked.

 

Wrong. It is your OP which you posted and support. YOU OWN IT

 

The viewers can decide for themselves.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068

 

Yes they can and have.

You have failed witrh every attempt and been proven wrong on every thread and they know it. And so do you.

 

Radiation levels were not that high - Apollo did not travel through the main belt, and its
speed meant astronauts were not in the belt for long in any case.
We are about to return to the moon - and the belts are still there, you know.

 

Here's some stuff about space radiation.

http://apollotruth.atspace.co.uk/
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There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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This link is dead but I saved part of the article.
http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeautaketooooo/id82.html
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To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
to
disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
likes of Rene as casual strangers.
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MoonFaker: Radioactive Anomaly. PART 1.

 

Did NASA steal $30 Billion to Fake
The Apollo Moon Landings?
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ARTICLE IN MEDIA BYPASS MAGAZINE, SEPT. 1997
THE VAN ALLEN ENIGMA
By Phylis and James Collier

In the early 1950's, a 35-year-old State University of Iowa physics professor and some of his students were cruising the cold waters ofnorthern Canada and the Atlantic Ocean, sending a series ofrocket-carrying balloons- which they dubbed "rockoons" - 12 to 15 miles into space.

They were trying to measure the nature of low-energy cosmic raysswirling around the earth. The experiments continued for five more years. Then, in 1958,Professor James Van Allen discovered his monster. Suddenly, his instrumentation warned of a giant beast of a thing, spewing enough deadly radiation counts to kill any human who ventured into its domain unprotected.

Van Allen and his students weren't sure of the size, shape and texture of the monster, they just knew they had encountered an incredible phenomenon.

Then, in l958, as part of the International Geophysical Year (a year in which men like James A. Van Allen were praised for exploring the realms of time and space) the young professor asked the U.S. military to send his experiments deeper into space, this time using a Geiger Counter to measure the intensity of the radiation. He further requested the most sophisticated rockets that would penetrate l00,000 miles into space.

That's when the monster grew all encompassing. It appeared to surround the entire earth and extend out some 65,000 miles, maybe even 100,000 miles. The Geiger Counter confirmed that the region above the earth, and in the path of the rocket, was cooking with deadly radiation. That radiation was born from solar flares that would race through the universe and become trapped by the earth's magnetic field. A deadly mixture of protons and electrons.

It was then that Van Allen realized the Aurora Borealis, the northern lights, was actually a visual manifestation of that tremendous energy from the sun. You could actually see the radiation swirling in a magnificent and deadly dance. His eventual finding of two such lethal radiation belts, put his name in the history books as the man who discovered the Van Allen Radiation Belts. There was an inner belt and an outer belt. The inner belt went from 40 degrees north and south of the Equator and was basically a doughnut surrounding the earth. Scientific experiments conducted by Van Allen and the military proved that belt was so deadly that no human could survive in its orbit. The outer belt was equally as destructive, and separated from the inner belt by an area of lesser radiation.

Van Allen's conclusion was delivered in a speech to the Academy of Science in 1959. He warned future space travelers they would have to race through these two zones on their way to outer planets.

"All manned space flight attempts must steer clear of these two belts of radiation until adequate means of safeguarding the astronauts has been developed" he said. Moreover, Van Allen advised they would have to be shielded with some extra layers of protection beyond that of the spacecraft itself. These findings were also published in Scientific American Magazine, March, 1959.

Two years later, Van Allen updated his report in Space World Magazine, December, 1961. In brief, he reported that everything he had found in 1959 was still valid. It was also in that year that President John F. Kennedy told an assembled group of students and dignitaries at Rice University in Houston, that it was America's destiny to put a man on the moon by the end of the decade. With that statement, the space race become a political game, worth 30 billion in taxpayer dollars to the winners. National Aeronautic and Space Administration (NASA), which is part of the Department of Defense and the CIA, became the caretaker of Kennedy's dream.

It was their job to build a spacecraft that would meet Van Allen's scientific requirements of safety through the radiation belts. Van Allen stated that the ship's skin, made of aluminum, would not be enough protection for the astronauts. Extra shielding of lead or another substance that would absorb the radiation would be needed. That, of course, posed the problem of weight. More weight created a booster problem. In other words, they would need a bigger rocket to carry a ship that was properly lined against radiation penetration. One of the most interesting of Van Allen's findings was that once protons and electrons hit the aluminum skin of the spacecraft, they would turn into x-rays. The kind the average dentist protects patients against with two inch lead vests. Those rays would naturally penetrate the astronaut's bodies and create anything from nausea and vomiting to eventual death, depending on the length of the exposure.

All of this scientific data presented a big problem for NASA. How could they build a spacecraft that would meet radiation standards and yet get off the ground?

The National Committee on Radiation Protection (NCRP) and the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) had established low "permissible doses" of radiation at levels that were consistent with living on earth. However, where the critical dosage on earth might be 5 rems of radiation in a year, the astronauts would receive that amount within minutes passing through the lower zone of the radiation belt.

In order to penetrate Van Allen's belt, in l965 NASA requested the two regulatory groups modify the existing standards for space flight. It was simply a matter of "risk over gain" and NASA convinced them to change the standards and allow them to take the risk. Whether or not future astronauts would be advised of these dramatically lowered standards and substantial risk is unknown at this time.

The next problem NASA faced was the shielding of the spacecraft. It was solved in a report NASA issued in Aerospace Medicine Magazine in 1965 and 1969. The report was written prior to the first Apollo mission to the moon.

NASA announced that a simple aluminum skin on the command module was enough to protect astronauts from lethal doses of radiation. This conclusion was based on studies NASA had conducted. Now NASA had ingeniously solved their two basic problems, protection and weight. They had eliminated the danger of radiation penetration, along with the problem of radiation shielding and spacecraft weight. We telephoned North American Rockwell, the builder of the Command Module which carried the astronauts to the moon and back. They verified that the craft was not protected by any additional shielding.

It was at this point in our research that we realized the Van Allen Report had been seriously compromised by NASA. Professor Van Allen had become an icon in the scientific community for warning of radiation dangers. One of his most important tenets was that even if you raced quickly through the 65,000 mile belt, which starts 400 miles above the earth's surface (thus allowing for inner space travel) you would still need considerable additional shielding. Were his findings now bogus? We had to speak to Van Allen.

Professor James A. Van Allen now 83, is Professor Emeritus in Geophysics at the University of Iowa. Our first question was why he did not speak up after NASA's claims and defend his original findings. Astonishingly, he told us that his seminal Scientific American article
in 1959 was merely "popular science."

"Are you refuting your findings?" we asked.

"Absolutely not," he answered, "I stand by them." In the next breath, Van Allen again acquiesced to NASA's point of view. He became positively mercurial in his answers. Basically he defended NASA's position that any material, even aluminum without shielding, was adequate to protect the astronauts from the radiation he once called deadly. When we asked him the point of his original warning about rushing through the Belt, he said, "It must have been a sloppy statement." So there we were, down the rabbit hole, chasing Van Allen through halls of mirrors. Was he taking the line of least resistance to government pressure? Was he trashing his own report in order not to be labeled a whistle blower? Could this renowned scientist actually be capable of a "sloppy statement" and blatant hyperbole published in a scientific journal?

If you don't believe we went to the moon, then you will say that NASA created the perfect cover story. It allowed them to continue receiving funding for a spacecraft they could not build, to enter a region of space they could not penetrate. If you believe we went to the moon, then you have to disregard Van Allen's years of research and published findings. You would also have to believe that aluminum, and not lead, is adequate protection against radiation in the very heart of the Belt. . .exactly the spot where Apollo rocket ships entered from Cape Canaveral in Florida.

 

Scott, let's face it - the Apollo program was all fake, all of it. And that includes Mercury and Gemini.
It's trivial compared to other fakes, and I wouldn't worry about it too much. The Russians weren't
that worried, and that's the point because they were in on it from the start with the fake Sputnik.
The one we ought to worry about was how Russia and America FAKED WORLD WAR 2 to occupy
Europe and Japan. There was no Tojo and Yamamoto, and certainly no Mussolini and Hitler. Those
who figured out the Holocaust was a fake were onto something - they just didn't go far enough.

 

The proof that Apollo was faked is crushing.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068