Mormon church opposes federal LGBTQ nondiscrimination measure

Assault is assault. So the baker DID bake the cake? I thought he didn’t? Hmmmmm

 

Simply put, this would put Christians in a bind. Either do what the government says or do what the Bible says. By not throwing the government's weight behind homosexual rights, it leaves Christians free to do what their conscience says. And since there are plenty of options in the free market that is the US, not being able to force one baker to bake your gay wedding cake doesn't preclude you from getting a gay wedding cake. It's the same as with marital status. You can (if your religious beliefs insist) discriminate in housing, etc., based on someone's marital status. The federal government has not made cohabitation outside of marriage a civil right that must be observed. By the same token, it should not do so for homosexuals.

 

Well I guess you never heard of hate crimes then. You should look it up.

Yes, the baker offered to sell any cake in the shop. He chose not to decorate it based on his religious beliefs, which is a valid Constitutional reason not to provide a service. You know, as per SCOTUS.

You could test that by asking a Muslim baker to craft a gay wedding cake, but you'd never do that, would you?

 

How will you determine if the person was discriminated against based on them beiong "gay or lesbian or a transgender"???

 

In this instance Liberals are right. LGBT people and people with disability deserve rights and protections. I am neither Liberal nor Conservative.

Milo Yiannapolous is proud of who he is. I am not ashamed of my Autism and Depression.

 

I agree 100%. Conservatives who advocate discrimination against LGBT and Disabled are wrong.

Liberals who advocate discrimination against male DV victims, and Liberals who support Presumption of Guilt are wrong.

 

So you agree he refused to provide service. Why did you say he didn’t refuse to provide service in the previous post??? So we agree refusing to provide service isn’t discrimination. Cool. Not sure why you’re struggling to understand that.
Yes, I’m aware of hate crimes. But what you used as an example wasn’t a hate crime.

 

One of many things we appreciate Milo for is that he apologized neither to Liberals nor to Conservatives. Many Conservatives strongly disagree with my idea that disabled people must have food, housing, medical care.

 

He didn't refuse service. You don't have to believe me, you can always read THE SUPREME COURT CASE THAT SAYS THAT.

You're not very good at spin. Hopefully you work in a different field.

What example did I use that wasn't a hate crime?

 

Did you or did you not post this?
“He chose not to decorate it based on his religious beliefs, which is a valid Constitutional reason not to provide a service.”

You can’t remember your on example? Hopefully no one relies on you to remember anything.

 

That's correct.

Perhaps you're not aware of religious discrimination?

Offering to sell a cake is providing service. Being forced to decorate the cake for a gay wedding that is against your religion is discrimination.....against the person with the religious convictions.

Which, of course, is exactly what SCOTUS said.

You're doing poorly here, you might want to pretend you left something on the oven and sneak away.

 

Why do you have a Russian sniper as your avatar?

I thought left-wingers hated Russia?

 

Well you're lying your article is about the Mormon Church opposing it. In the Mormon Church opposes brief underwear. They're not really a reflection of conservative values. They're the extreme.

That being said I would be interested to see the provisions regarding transgender people. This seems to be the major bone of contention with most conservatives. I don't think they really care about gay or lesbian people getting married.

 

Did anyone bother to read the article? You'd see the OP is deceptive, if so.

Here's the gist of it -

Not this -

Tsk, tsk, very dishonest.

 

You can't, that's why they want it.

 

The problem is that many people consider not wanting to get up "disabled".

 

Double agent.

 

I clicked on it and saw the headline. I guess all conservatives are Mormon.

 

Why do you believe LGBT should be awarded a greater level of protection than everyone else. Don't you believe in Equal Opportunity for all?

 

No, what people deserve is to have the same rules applied to everyone equally.

 

He refused to make a custom product for someone that went against his beliefs. Would you require a pro choice painter to create a mural for a pro life cause? How about requiring a vegan to photograph a family barbecue?

Can't people objected to doing a service that but they provide for a cause they don't agree with?

 

If you were a smart conservative, you'd know that special protections for some, and not others, is not equality.

 

Well you got understand the concept of equality with some of these people it's not equality and opportunity that they want it's equality in outcome.

 

Yes, which means discrimination based on sexuality should be illegal.

Don't u support equal opportunity?

 

If you believed in equality of opportunity, you wouldn't carve out a special protection clause for LGBT, would you?

What about blacks discriminating against whites, liberals against conservatives, tall people against short people, and thin people against fat people? Where does it all end?