Mother and son become father and daughter

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  1. Cybred

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    Because there's no legitimate reason not to.
     
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    You want to know what one of the biggest problems for the Black community is? It’s irresponsible men who father children and walk away from their responsibilities. Children who are raised in single mother households have a lesser chance for success. There is also something to be said about young boys who are raised without a male role model. It’s one of the reasons why the crime rate is so high among young African-American males.

    If you want to read about someone who beat the odds, read the book Just Tyrus by Tyrus, the Fox News commentator and heavy weight wrestling champion. The book is a real eye opener and shows what a young Black man faces to beat the odds.
     
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    Looks like a publicity stunt to me, and it seems to be working.
     
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    And vice versa!

    The benefits of marriage are connected to owning a house and raising a family. The Republicans enabled the greed obsessed Wall Street Casino Bosses to gut these benefits for their own nefarious ends. Millennials and Gen Z cannot afford the American Dream thanks to them.

    So in this day and age there is little wonder that those struggling under college loan debts are not going to put themselves even further in the hole for the cost of a marriage or by purchasing a house even if they could afford one. That applies to all of them.
     
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    If marriage laws enabled polygamy then they would stipulate equal shares to all parties under that contract.
     
  6. Chickpea

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    That would make sense.

    My preference would be to get the government out of the business of "marriage law" and let marriages simply fall under the category of "contract law". Then the terms of the contract would be up to the particular individuals involved.
     
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    bigotry
    noun
    1. obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
    Does the definition fit the content above?

    The fact that black males are far more likely to be incarcerated by the justice system in many states accounts for many of those men not being around for their kids.

    https://www.vox.com/2015/6/21/8820537/black-fathers-day

    The current justice system is heavily biased against POC and it is disingenuous to lock someone up and then accuse them of not being there for their kids.
     
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    If it were that simple I would agree with you because adults can enter into binding contracts like marriage or taking a car loan.

    The moment there is a child things take on a distinctly different meaning as to who is entitled to what and how much is fair to all parties.

    So government, which is responsible for all laws, still has a responsibility to remain in the "business" of marriage laws.
     
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    Or "child care" laws

    Also, if marriage were simply contractual, it would certanly include langage involving child care arrangements. Just hypothosizing though.
     
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    So I am a bigot because I point out a situation that many others have also noted. Single parent homes is a major problem for the Black community. That is a fact. It’s not bigotry.

    It’s obvious that you are really PO’d at me and the feeling is becoming mutual. I have tried very hard to express support for transgender adults, except traitors, like Brady Manning, yet nothing is good enough for you for unless I agree with everything you post. It’s obvious we can’t have a reasonable conversation. So you are going on ignore. Good bye.
     
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    the problem was anti-lgbtq people denying hospital visits unless legally married, etc....
     
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    You failed to question your source. You failed to understand the reality of POC under our current racist system of justice. You failed to even address the facts provided in my link that demonstrated the fallacies in your allegations.

    Instead you accepted it as a "shortcoming" that you could use as a blunt object to disparage others less fortunate than yourself.
    Projection noted!
    Being trans has nothing whatsoever to do her actions while serving in the military. That you conflate the two says volumes.
    Clearly you are struggling to deal with the content of your posts being exposed as less than factual and then being unable to defend said debunked content.

    Yes, it takes time to learn how to engage in civil discourse on sensitive topics.
    Thanks for chalking up another win for the Trans team! ;)
     
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    I know a lot of single parents, both black and white, seems to be happening more today than in the past and most of the time it is women filing for divorce to be fair

    I think dating apps have made it easier to get a new partner then ever before in history, so people want the new shiny relationship
     
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    There is quite a bit of wisdom in what you have to say. Yes it is easier to find new partners using the Internet.

    Part of problem started by during the Johnson administration in the 1960s. One of the counterproductive rules was if there was a unmarried man in the house, you got no benefits. That drove African-American families apart. The Johnson Administration as subsidized apartment rentals for unwed mothers. As one critic pointed out, one of the the tings a sexually active daughter wanted was to get out from under her mother who might have been trying to rein her in. There were also additional benefits if they had more children.

    All of these things worked against the core African-American family unit. African-American culture put a lot of stock into religion and the rules of the Ten Commandments. The Johnson administration rules worked against that positive influence.
     
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    I understand. Things like that are highly intertwined in the state marriage situation. So the idea of the state being non-involved in marriage would have to be after a long period of societal adjustment. Will that ever happen? Who knows.

    But while the state does involve itself in marriage, then it seems that it should not limit the number of spouses to only two.
     
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    I am a responsible citizen who feels obligated to call out a mental heaslth crisis when he sees one.
     
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    Bullllllllllshiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
     
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    You think I am insincere?
     
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    Sure, like the National Enquirer, anyone can post any phobic or silly nonsense they like.
     
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    How is anyone forced to recognize LGBTQ people?
    Other than the fact they really exist. But no one is forced into recognizing them.
     
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    Polygamy legal or illegal will never stop sexual fun. And who says multimarrigage unions won't use birth control?
    You're not making much sense with those reasons for polygamy being illegal.
     
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    Because it points out the self righteous hypocrisy so many many rightist have.
     
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    Yep. Systemic racism made many black communities the communities they are today.
    Especially when run by white males. They thought black people were not fully a person. 2/3 of a person in fact.
     
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    Because Truwmpfff.... orange man bad....very bad!!!​
     
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    He was and still is trying to stop American democratic elections.
    That is very bad.

    And his personal behaviors are exactly what the self righteous complain about all the time.
    But choose a type of people they hate to be their leader.
    Hypocrites.
     
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