Mueller claims Trump is not criminal target in his investigation, report says

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I want him to be impeached because he's a ****** incompetent fool who's ruining the country He's an employee, a new hire who's ****ing up royally, his hiring was obviously a bad mistake and his employment needs to be terminated before he does any more damage. This isn't a partisan thing as people from both sides are saying this

    Again, impeachment is a LEGISLATIVE process, not a judicial one and he can be removed for any reason, as the "high crimes and misdemeanors" are whatever Congress says they are

    I would suppose that if he resigns that would take care of his punishment for his manifold crimes. I don't know if that would be a formal arrangement or not. .
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've yet to prove me wrong.

    Tell me more about your wide knowledge of the Nixon resignation! Were there tapes? Were any parts of the tapes erased? What was on the erased parts? Were any documents destroyed? What did McCord tell Sirica? What did Dean say about McCord's talk with Sirica? Six of Nixon's top aides and his Attorney General were convicted, and Nixon knew nothing, but he participated in the cover up? If he had plausible deniability, why try to cover up a crime in which you had no part? You actually believe Nixon knew nothing?

    You believe the FBI raid on Cohen's office was desperation, as posted above. I predict that post will not age well.

    The ONLY reason a special counsel can be appointed is because of a conflict of interest. I cited you the law, yet again, you "know more" than the law. Note the "and" in red is NOT an "or."

    The Clinton email situation has NOT been ignored. I'm fairly sure you saw Comey say "extreme carelessness" and are upset that he didn't say "gross negligence." Under what circumstances did Comey say those words? Let me help you, at the end of the FBI's investigation into Clinton's email server.

    I cited Huber in this thread. Yes, I know who he is. Sessions refused to appoint another Special Counsel, but partisans in Congress kept harping on it, so Sessions appointed an outside investigator, and he is working with Horowitz, the IG, to determine if another Special Counsel is appropriate. If another Special Counsel was appropriate, Sessions would have already appointed one. This is political theater.

    Yes, you cannot cite a reputable source saying Hillary Clinton, herself, sold uranium to Russia to benefit herself to the tune of $145Million, because one does not exist. Therefore, your claim that Hillary Clinton sold uranium and got $145 Million is refuted. You have zero evidence to make that claim. I'm not the one embarrassed. I'm not making erroneous claims. I'm not making claims without backing them up with citations from reputable sources. Generally, when one does not have evidence to back up their claim, and when the claim has been refuted with evidence to the contrary, it's best if one stops making the claim.

    If Rosenstein wanted Comey fired, why didn't he put that in his letter about Comey's handling of the Clinton email investigation, you know, the one you claim has been ignored? He purposefully didn't put in any recommendation of firing Comey.

    Unfounded opinions do not come with citations from reputable sources. My opinions are either sourced with background information or I clearly state IMO.

    I don't put anyone on ignore.
     
  3. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you please list a few of his "manifold crimes".
     
  4. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll repeat my statement. "He (Nixon) was guilty of the cover-up but knew nothing of the breakin before it happened", and there is no evidence to the contrary..
    Okay
    The regulations set forth (28 C.F.R. 600.1) a three-part analysis for determining whether to appoint a special counsel. First, the Attorney General must determine that “criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted.” Then, he or she must determine whether investigation or prosecution of the “person or matter” by a U.S. Attorney’s Office or a Justice Department litigating division would present either “a conflict of interest for the Department” or “other extraordinary circumstances.” Finally, a further question is to be asked, namely, whether “it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter. https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/attorney-generals-special-counsel-regulations/
    The FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation but, as far as we know, are still ignoring Hillary's Email shenanigans. http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/367541-fbi-launches-new-clinton-foundation-investigation
    So investigating Hillary Clinton for obvious crimes is 'political theater' but investigating Donald Trump for no known crimes is not?
    So what is your explanation for the Clinton Foundation receiving $145 million from the Russians?
    He did more than put it in a letter, which I believe I posted, he testified to that fact in front of Congress.




     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a member of Mueller's prosecutorial team. These things come out at the trial and I am quite sure they will. I expect collusion with the Russians to defraud the election will be proven beyond doubt along with an extensive record of money laundering going back several years
     
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    So your statement about "punishment for his manifold crimes" was just a way of expressing your feelings and had nothing to do with any facts. There's a lot of that around here. It's known as TDS..
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Anything not showing total worship of the God-Emperor is TDS to your ilk. Anybody who can't see Trump's guilt at this point is lying to themselves.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, Nostradamus. You can see what others cannot.
     
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    Get off your high horse. You want to get upset about a real illegitimate president let's look at the Bush election when the Rep SC told Florida to stop counting even though the margin was 500 votes. Now with Trump and the investigation into Russian election hacking and you choose to ignore the mountains of evidence so go ahead and sit on your hands in 2020 please don't vote. No one cares. If Russia tried influencing this election then by your own standard Trump should be illegitinate.

    You not clapping will really hurt our feelings lol ****

    And no your not the only one with that view I'm sure Alex dick pills Jones and Sean Hannity are tending to their flock daily.

    Go pound sand.
     
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    Trump should fire Mueller. The liberal progressive meltdown would be glorious!
     
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    F that I don't want Trump to get himself impeached and get stuck with Pence.
     
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    It seems this is what the left wants. I was glad obama was not gone after like that. The best thing was to leave him in office so he would reveal how bad the liberal prog ideology is....mission accomplished!
     
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    I'd rather have the docile moron
    Than the competent extremist.
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, I am simply not blinded by unabashed Trump-love
     
  15. Fred C Dobbs

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    You feel it was extremist to cut taxes and get rid of ISIS? Challenge Kim in NoKo? Protect the borders? Get rid of high tariffs from China?

    Which position of the Trump Administration is 'extreme'?
     
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    Well ya better get to bad mouthing Mueller.
     
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    They will the moment Mueller ends his "investigation" without charging Trump.
     
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    Trump should fire Rosenstein and have Noel Francisco take over. Rosenstein is in a clear conflict of interest. Mueller would then likely end his ongoing and dangerous farce.
     
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    The meltdown would be equally glorious!
     
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    The Clinton Foundation certainly needs investigating:

    HOW DO YOU BORROW $28.5 MILLION, THEN MAKE IT DISAPPEAR?

    Just ask Bill and Hill and Chel at the foundation bearing their last name. Charles Ortel has uncovered yet another aspect of the sprawling charitable fraud that is the Clinton Foundation.
     
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    Trump has now been investigated for almost 2 years - 22 months?
    Do a little research into Mueller. It is hard to find anything good in his professional history as a prosecutor.
     
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    Mueller is dirty scum:

    Come clean on FBI frame-up, Bob Mueller.
    “What did Bob Mueller know about the FBI’s framing of four innocent men for a murder they didn’t commit, and when did he know it? This is an important question for the ‘special counsel,’ and for two days I’ve been emailing his press office, asking for answers about his tenure in the U.S. attorney’s office here. No response. Zip, zero, nada.”

    “In 2013, the Boston Globe also reported the existence of a Mueller letter. The Parole Board now cannot find it. I found other two U.S. attorneys’ letters in the state archives — but none from Mueller. The special counsel’s office is not commenting. So let me ask the question again: Mr. Mueller, what did you know about the framing of four innocent men for a crime they did not commit? Did you ever write any letters demanding that the parole board not correct this gross miscarriage of justice? When did you find out that the FBI office in Boston was in the business of framing innocent men on behalf of their serial-killing, cocaine-dealing underworld paymasters? And what exactly did you do about it when you ran that agency for eight years?”
     
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    They guy has quite a history.

    In 2006, the Justice Department found evidence that Mueller (then the FBI Director) falsified testimony about the bureau’s surveillance on an anti-war protest in 2002. The DoJ figured out that Mueller improperly opened and expanded investigations into specific Left-wing groups.

    In that time,
    Mueller committed perjury by claiming the FBI was conducting an anti-terrorism investigation into The Thomas Merton Center, a pacifist Catholic Organization.And it has come out that Mueller played a significant role in removing the words “radical Islam” from the FBI training manuals. This decision was supported by radical Islamist groups in the U.S.

    There's more. http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/20/10-things-to-hate-about-robert-mueller/










     

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    I would assume that Trump's lawyers know all about Mueller's poor professional performance record.
    Which is probably why Trump has not bothered to fire Mueller - or Rosenstein.
     

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