Mueller closing in on Trump in Russian probe

These are not even Americans in any sense of the word, which renders their BS null and void on the subject.

 

You mean you think PC constitutionally unfriendly authoritarian progressives are good for the collective.

 

Ah, freedom so disposed by the left. The hate from the left is palpable.

 

Sandy....will you make a bet with me Trump will be in office 2 years from now?

 

Democrats want our economy to fail desparately so they can gain more power "for the victims"!

 

You wouldn't know.

 

What is the latest fabrication coming out of the White House?

Trump still wants to talk with special counsel Robert Mueller despite his lawyers urging him not to sit for an interview, CNN reported, citing Trump allies.

One person familiar with the President's thinking told CNN that Trump wants to talk with Mueller because the President thinks he is completely innocent. That is funny, not to mention naive.

It is difficult to believe anything Trump says these days, especially when it comes to things like the Russian probe, Nunes memo, Mueller, the FBI, and the DOJ..Many disbelieve this assertion. Trump wants Americans to believe that he is willing to talk to Mueller because he is innocent, but, "Aw, gee, my lawyers say I shouldn't. Sorry about that."

When can we believe him? When he is sitting in front of Mueller answering questions from the special prosecutor.

Then, and only then. Until, if, that happens, the White House is lying, plain and simple.

Hint of things to come: Corey Lewandowski and Steve Bannon, at the urging of the White House, are refusing to volunteer further testimony before the House Intelligence Committee. Any further testimony will require a subpoena.

Obviously, they are hiding something. They are not being charged with a crime. So, it has something to do with Trump and the Russian interference in our election. After all, that is what the House Intelligence Committee, supposedly, is investigating.

 

All that is moot distraction that would not be a discussion had it not been for the FISA warrants taken on the presumption that the Dossier was valid testimony when in fact it was a partisan hit job financed by Hillary Rodham Clinton. She lost and you just can't stand it!

 

The White House staff is doing its level best trying to handle the Porter debacle, but it is a comedy of errors, and, of course, Trump only makes it worse. Some staffers are beginning to wonder what side Trump is on and why he continues to feed good news to the hostile MSM.

Sarah Sanders tried to explain matters to a skeptical audience of White House reporters today, but may have only made matters worse. She told her audience that the White House found out about the FBI concerns on Tuesday evening.

On Wednesday, "Rob Porter is a man of true integrity and honor and I can't say enough good things about him. He is a friend, a confidante and a trusted professional. I am proud to serve alongside him," chief of staff Kelly said in a statement. Trump himself has "full confidence in his abilities and his performance," Sanders herself said on Wednesday.

But the real scramble began Friday when Trump took the unusual step of calling reporters into the room to tell them this, "I found out about it recently and I was surprised by it. We certainly wish him well. It's obviously a very tough time for him. He did a very good job while he was in the White House. We hope that he will have a wonderful career. It was very sad when we heard about it."

"He says he's innocent, and I think you have to remember that," Trump added. "He said very strongly yesterday that he's innocent, but you'll have to talk to him about that."

Trump said nothing about the battered wives.

As can be seen, the White House is in disarray. It has been a week now, and the White House staff still cannot get the story straight. Trump's moronic statements on Friday and and Saturday, praising Porter and blaming his battered wives for the staff secretary's problems, remain his last word. As Sarah Sanders struggles with reporters, making herself and the White House and Trump looking like complete fools, Trump stays above the fray, saying nothing.

Why is he hiding behind Sanders and others? Why, as the President, is he allowing others to speak for him while he remains silent? He set off two public relations bombs, and now he is sitting back and watching the bloodbath unfold. Why? It is a communication director's nightmare, but wait, here comes the really juicy part. Trump's lovely, bewildered, and out-of-depth communication director is smack in the middle of the brouhaha. She is the girlfriend of the much maligned staff secretary. Much maligned according to Trump, that is.

As he silently watches all this unfold, Trump could not be more pleased. It is beautiful, he thinks. While the press is totally absorbed in the Porter fiasco, and the dueling memos before that, no one is talking about the Russian probe. Gone is any discussion about the four Congressional investigations into his activities as they may relate to Russia. Gone is all the talk about his countless associates and members of his family with Russian connections. Gone is media attention on the Mueller investigation and the witnesses, previously part of Trump's campaign entourage, turning state's evidence.

Is there any reason to doubt why Trump is walking around with that big, silly grin on his face?

 

So you want to focus on one guy who probably did abuse the women in his life, and now he is gone. Sort of keeps your mind off the fact a fake dossier, paid for by Hillary Clinton and put together with the help of "Russia", was presented by the FBI to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on her political opponent-an American Citizen I might add. This is something liberatarians have feared for a long time and now we have a "deep state" being exposed. There is a whole lot more to come.....especially with Susan Rice and all the lies she has told. It's all coming together. Makes what you've got seem pretty weak huh?

 

A. The Dossier is "fake" only in the minds of Trumpers

B.When you mean "put together by Russia" you mean that investigators got information about what happened between Trump campaign officials and Russians....party from Russians (kinda how investigations go)...

C. According to Nunes memo there was OTHER information used to obtain that FISA warrant and Carter Page had been under investigation for YEARS. Carter Page is NOT anyone's "political opponent" and the first FISA warrant wasn't issued until October...and was renewed three separate times (meaning new evidence for each renewal as well as an assessment that previous warrants had "produced" substance)

D. The Trump Administration just recently reauthorized that same FISA program you're complaining about and in fact EXPANDED it.


But other than that...yea...ya got it right.

Oh wait...that was everything.

You got NONE of it right

 

What’s really amusing is the title of this thread compared to its creation date. Hahahahaha

 

A. The dossier is real, the information is unverified.

B. No ‘investigators’, one guy and players like Blumenthal.

C. The other information was a Yahoo article which basically came from Steele.

D. FAIL, Congress reauthorized 702. The FISA warrant was Title I, not 702.

 

The Dossier was funded by HRC and the Democrat Party. That was not disclosed. Federal Agencies used to target political opposition. Kind of like Lois Lerner and the IRS isn't it? We'll see how this all pans out. You got it right......in your mind.

 

There has been a new development.

WASHINGTON – Russian operatives sought to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including in support of supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald Trump, special counsel Robert Mueller charged on Friday in an indictment of 13 Russian nationals and a Kremlin-linked internet research firm.

In the indictment, Mueller charged that some of the Russians, posing as Americans, "communicated with unwitting individuals" associated with Trump's 2016 campaign "to seek to coordinate political activities."

The charges include violations of campaign finance laws, conspiracy and identity theft and failing to register as agents of a foreign government. USA Today.

 

That is exactly what Nunes and Trump want you to believe, and Trump won't allow the other version of events to be seen, the Democratic memo. You have heard only one side of the issue, Trump's side. Trump is afraid to allow Americans to see the other side. To an intelligent man, that should tell a person something.

Nunes was on Trump's transition team. He is still on Trump's team. His committee should be called the White House Intelligence Committee. Nunes sole purpose in life is to protect Trump, not oversee the executive branch, which is its Constitutional duty.

 

You rather slow, aren't you? You missed the point by a mile.

I want to focus on the guy you saw pictured. Funny, how the only way Trumpians can defend Trump is to pretend they are stupid.

 

That does not make it inaccurate, but that is what the Nunes memo is implying.

Actually, except for a three-word phrase by Comey in January 2016, the memo did not question the veracity of the memo.

Yes, it was. Nunes lied at first. He got caught, and he had to correct the lie.

 

The Russian question is far from over, and the indictment handed down by the Department of Justice is as important for what it did not say as compared to what it did say.

The New York Times reports, "The special counsel investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election charged 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations on Friday with illegally trying to disrupt the American political process, including efforts designed to boost the presidential candidacy of Donald Trump and hurt that of his opponent, Hillary Clinton.

"The indictment represents the first charges by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for meddling in the 2016 presidential election — the fundamental crime that he was assigned to investigate.

"In a 37-page indictment filed in United States District Court, Mr. Mueller said that the 13 individuals have conspired since 2014 to violate laws that prohibit foreigners from spending money to influence federal elections in the United States."

“The nature of the scheme was the defendants took extraordinary steps to make it appear that they were ordinary American political activists,” Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general overseeing Mueller’s inquiry, stated.

What is remarkable is that maybe for the first time ever an indictment declared some interested parties innocent of wrongdoing. Some of the Russians, posing as Americans and working on what was dubbed “the Translator Project,” “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign and other political activists.”

Unwitting? Is this indictment doing the job of the judge and jury? It would seem so. That is a very odd statement coming from the Republican DOJ. Is it an attempt to protect the Republican President?

The Times continued. The indictment cites a series of political advertisements paid for by the Russians, all of them against Mrs. Clinton and in favor of Mr. Trump.

Rosenstein said repeatedly that the indictment does not allege that the Russian operation changed the outcome of the Presidential election.

Then the indictment went on to declare who it was not indicting. “There is no allegation in this indictment that any American had any knowledge,” Rosenstein said.

Those indictments by Mueller are reserved for the future.

However, the indictment does say, "That location became one of the ORGANIZATION's operational hubs from which Defendants and other co-conspirators carried out their activities to interfere in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election."

Who might those "co-conspirators" be? Anyone wish to hazard a guess?

As is his custom, in reaction to the indictments, Trump told multiple lies in a tweet. He wrote, "Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced that I would run for President. The results of the election were not impacted. The Trump campaign did nothing wrong - no collusion!"

The first sentence overlooks what the indictment did say about the purpose of the campaign. That is, and I quote, "... political advertisements paid for by the Russians, all of them against Mrs. Clinton and in favor of Mr. Trump."

The indictment did not deal with the impact of the Russian campaign and did not conclude the Trump campaign was innocent of collusion. Au contraire, it suggested the very opposite.

 

The more you cling to it, the more it's going to hurt you.

 

Another bad day for the lefties pushing the Russia Collusion fantasy. Is it possible they will ever wake up and stop the madness?

Nope

 

This is advice you must take to heart. Just a quick heads up.

 

I'm ok, but thank you for your concern.

 

& you are completely obsessed to overturn an election because it is not establishment enough to your liking.

 

In his early morning tweet, Trump wrote, "The Russian “hoax” was that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia - it never did!"

Hu-hum, another lie from our President.

His attorney general met with the Russian ambassador twice, once in his office, then lied about it to the Senate committee confirming him.

His former NSA who he fired, Mike Flynn, made a deal with the Russian ambassador during the transition period, meaning Flynn was a private citizen at the time. The deal conflicted with official U.S. policy with a hostile power that had interfered in our elections.

Trump's son, son-in-law, and campaign manager met with four Russian operatives at Trump's home, Trump Tower, in June of 2016.

Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, has had multiple dealings with the Kremlin and he has been indicted for doing so.

One of Trump's senior advisors during the campaign, Rick Gates, has had multiple dealings with the Kremlin and he has been indicted for doing so. Gates will plead guilty and will cooperate with Mueller.

Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has had so many dealings with the Russians, at least 100, that he has failed to properly fill out the forms required for a security clearance. Serious questions are swirling around Kushner’s security clearance — which is still pending more than a year after he entered the White House. By some strange coincidence, Kushner requests more intelligence information than any other White House official. I don't believe in coincidences.

A member of Trump's team, George Papadopulous, lied to the FBI about his Russian involvement. He has pleaded guilty and has been cooperating with Mueller since July.

Another member of Trump's team, Carter Page, admitted to be an advisor to the Kremlin in 2013. On November 2, 2017, Page testified to the U.S. House Intelligence Committee that he had informed Jeff Sessions, Corey Lewandowski, Hope Hicks and other Trump campaign officials that he was traveling to Russia to give a speech in July 2016. Page testified that he had met with Russian government officials during this trip and had sent a post-meeting report via email to members of the Trump campaign.

In all, nine members of Trump's team, either close associates or members of his family, have had connections to Russia.

Trump refuses to acknowledge Russia interfered in our election.

Trump refuses to take steps to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections.

Trump refuses to impose sanctions against Russia that were authorized by a bill he signed in August. The sanctions were caused by Russia's interference in our election.

Trump had this to say about Putin during the election campaign. "I'm saying that I'd possibly have a good relationship. He's been very nice to me."