Muslim school which objected to girls on boys soccer team told to abide by rules

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  1. ellesdee

    ellesdee Well-Known Member

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    Well this detail does complicate things. I would disagree however that Muslims should have to form their own leagues because there's likely not a large enough Muslim population to form a separate league.

    Eliminating points and making all wins equal would solve the issue.

    The slippery-slope argument is just as illogical here as it is when used against same-sex marriage.
     
  2. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    Then they should play by the rules or not play at all. Girls should not feel they are not able to play or the other team will forfeit- ever.

    Irrelevant to this case.

    No, in this case it really is not. The first thing that would start to happen is you'd see the reverse, other schools not wanting to play the muslim team. This case being a very good reason for not wanting to.
     
  3. Riot

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    Wow you must really hate muslims. Cause when a right winged person say exactly what you just said they are racist and other names by the liberal and progressives l.
     
  4. Flintc

    Flintc New Member

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    Not at all. A team wishing to compete, must abide by the rules of the competition.

    Yes, we know how evil "progressives" are in your mind -- so evil that you must rave against them no matter how irrelevant your fixation is to this thread.
     
  5. ellesdee

    ellesdee Well-Known Member

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    I'm seeing both sides now, but I can't side with you completely because I won't support you notion that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to play in the league. The logic behind the Muslims decision was not based on sexism, and they followed the rules of the league. I think, in this case, religion is the easier target to vilify even though all sides meant the sincerest respect for the other. I tend to look for ways to settle differences in a way that makes both sides happy. I know from experience that most people don't think that way.
     
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    No they're not liberal but they're also not conservative in the West. For China conserving the past is communism compared to the fascism they have today.

    What Muslims do have in common with progressives is the want to destroy Western civilization, culture along with a love for socialist totalitarianism.
     
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    Oh give it a rest. God, you people are dramatic. Progressives do not want to destroy western civilization. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

    I'm on the left and I've been strongly speaking out against the crap the muslim school pulled. So take your assumptions and shove them. Nothing any religion does in this manner aligns with anything the left wants- quite the opposite.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Nope because in the US it would be a private religious school and they can have different rules.
     
  9. Jackster

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    Sure gender isnt exactly the same as race, i dont need to be reminded a hot babe is far different to Muslim male. Its the left you need to remind about this. But we're still talking about an objection to touching people with a difference. Some how i doubt you'd actually support the white teams decision and we both know the responses would be very different.
     
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    You people are in denial, you support and import it. The evidence is there for all to see, you support mass immigration at replacement levels of people who have never shown a tendency towards Western values.
     
  11. ellesdee

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    Well, I just said I would. Whether or not you believe me is not my concern.
     
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    Muslims are the most depraved people on earth. They have no redeeming qualities at all.
     
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    I will wait until the next match where girl's are involved to make a definitive statement.
    The catholic school made a compromise to the islamic school for the match to go ahead. Hopefully the islamic school will decide that the next time this happens they will play.
    Until then, I appreciate the teachers/coaches desire to not have this flare up into a major incident.
    Wait till the next game...
     
  14. IranianStudent1

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    I guess your notion of religion is like that of the rules of a country!
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My notion of religion is that it should be practiced peacefully. Not strapping bombs to themselves and blowing themselves up in the name of their god.
     
  16. IranianStudent1

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    No religion has come to bring war with itself. Islam is no exception.
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    Supporting verses from Qur'an:
    وَلَا تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلَّا بِالْحَقِّ ۗ وَمَن قُتِلَ مَظْلُومًا فَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا لِوَلِيِّهِ سُلْطَانًا فَلَا يُسْرِف فِّي الْقَتْلِ ۖ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مَنصُورًا [١٧:٣٣]
    Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).
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    مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ [٥:٣٢]
    On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
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  17. ArmySoldier

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    That's the problem. Muslims are MISINTERPRETING the Quran. Just as the Christians did 300 years ago.

    However, as I stated, the Christians evolved. The Muslims are now the religion that needs to get with the times. Heck, Christianity is now starting to be cool with gay marriage. It's evolving. Not islam. Heck, in Saudi Arabia you can be jailed for being gay because of their RELIGION.

    Islam needs to evolve.
     
  18. IranianStudent1

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    Some people say these are efforts by westerns to defame Islam
    So you are encouraging us to distort our religion?
    And distorting a religion is not considered evolving.

    Gays are people with their typical lewd behavior. As far as I know, the stance of pope has not changed on it either. To allow it is to allow lewdness, something forbidden in Islam, and Islam isthe official religion of Iran according to its constitution.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your views are human rights violations.
     
  20. IranianStudent1

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    No, maybe non-conformity, but not violation, since it is not law.

    And a religion, which is formulated by god, is not supposed too adapt to any new law that humans make up.
     
  21. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But there might not be a god....That's why the myth of god can't run a government.
     
  22. IranianStudent1

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    The myth?
    people voted for this kind of government anyway.
     
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    I wonder what the nature of the protest was. I guess you can call it sexism, but it's also reasonable. I think i would object to playing foorball against another team if my team was all boys and the other team was mixed because of safety issues. Boys and girls are not equal and in a sport like soccer, they could get seriously hurt and the team with all boys would have to either restrain themselves or feel compelled to do so, or potentially cause serious injuries.

    I imagine a male pro-wrestler refusing to fight a woman is sexist, but it's also pretty freakin reasonable.
     
  24. ArmySoldier

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    A government run by religion is the dumbest idea. Their religion might not even be RIGHT. That's why you need an unbiased government. Sharia Law is an example of human rights violations.
     
  25. IranianStudent1

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    Iran's government is not run by the religion. It is run by its government that have some rules based in a particular interpretation of the religion.
    And I think human rights is there for humans, not that humans are there for human rights. That is a government people chose themselves, and talking of human rights is pure non-sense
     

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