'My friends died,' heckler shouts. 'So did my son,' Joe Biden shoots back

Biden's son died it was no lie. They both used someone else's death. the heckler used his 'grief' to justify distracting an entire audience from hearing who and what they came to hear for an extended period. Biden used his reference to remind him that lots of people grieve without feeling so entitled. He did not to anyone's knowledge use Beaus death in this rally outside of that one sentence context. Have you figured out who was doing what now?

 

Its what I always say about hecklers. I get the point of shouting out your point once or twice to get a speakers or the media's attentin. If you keep disrupting the speaker to the point you inhibit the audience from actually hearing what they came for, you are interfering with more expression than you contribute to it.

 

How is Alyosha?

 

Did you even read the article? Do you even know what Biden and the protester were talking about? It doesn't seem like it, so let me explain.

That "heckler" was an American who went to Syria in order to help the Kurds fight ISIS. One of his friends, also an American, died while fighting to liberate Manbij from ISIS. He's angry because Biden told the Kurdish forces who had fought and died to liberate that city to leave it and give it up to Turkish invaders. So he asked Biden why he told the Kurds to leave. Biden said it was part of a "deal". THAT was the lie. There was no deal. And as for Biden's son, he died of cancer. While very sad, that has NOTHING to do with what happened in Syria. It was just an attempt by Biden to distract people from the issue this person had raised.

So now that you understand what, exactly, was being discussed, can you please explain why you're more upset by some guy being rude towards Biden than you are by Biden being dishonest and manipulative?

 

Well Biden asserts there was a deal on exactly how far the kurds were to go, and what the goal was to be. Now I am more likely to believe that he understood that was the deal, and that he is more likely to have heard more than you did because he was in a position to hear stuff that could have been interpreted as a deal than you were to know that he did not understand this information.

The heckler was not rude to Biden. He was rude to every single person in that came to listen to Biden. that is a lot of people's time he was wasting. If Biden is trying to shame this asshat from using his friends death as a justification to prevent those Americans from hearing who they wanted to hear, I think it is great. Fact is that Biden does not go around heckling and disrupting folks despite his grief. Joe was not distracting anyone. The Heckler was. The audience came to a rally for Hillary and to listen to Biden talk about her., not this moron. Lots of people die. Lots of people have pain. They just don't use it as an excuse to (*)(*)(*)(*) up everyone elses time. I say great job Joe. If it works, more power to you,. You have a speech to give and the topic was Hillary Clinton for President.

Is that clear enough for you? I am done here,

 

There was no deal. That was a lie. If you think otherwise, then please find a single Kurdish official or officer in Syria who acknowledges its existence. I follow about a dozen Kurdish organizations on social media and every single one of them is saying that Biden lied and no such deal existed. Seems pretty definitive to me.

Again, I find it very odd that you're more concerned with one of the little people being rude and heckling Biden than you are with Biden's dishonest and manipulative behavior.

 

The guy let Biden answer the question. The problem with Biden's answer is that it was a lie.

And even though you do not seem to understand the importance of the question being asked, Biden did, which is why he answered the question, distracted the audience with a reference to his deceased son, and even invited the guy backstage to have a chat afterwards. If this guy was just some random, rude heckler with nothing valid to say, Biden would have just ignored him and removed him. But Biden knows that the issue he raised is valid to MANY people, and not just Americans, which is why he went into damage control.

 

First the heckler was not just rude to Biden but to everyone who attended the rally with the intention of hearing Biden. that was a lot of people he was screwing with that night. Heckler was disrupting the entire event and was being manipulative and nasty while doing so. I find it odd you don't get that. You have not proven your premise. You have asserted your spin. Not the same.

 

I agree at least that his son's death was irrelevant, since it's not like he lost his son for a reason that was relevant to this issue. Biden is a strange one.

 

There was no deal. No Kurdish group would ever agree to liberate a city from ISIS only to give it up to Turkish invaders. Anyone with a cursory understanding of the situation in Syria knows this.

Oh no! He disrupted their mindless cult rituals in order to bring up something that is actually important. How dare he!

But I'll concede that he was rude. His point is still valid. And Biden still deceived the audience. Apparently, none of that matters to you.

 

No your opinion does not matter to me, no matter how frequently you describe it to me as though it is fact. You will not shame me through your spin. Give it up.

 

I don't really care if my opinion matters to you. I'm not responding to your posts because I'm trying to change your mind. Clearly that is impossible. But the people reading this need to understand that Biden is a liar and that your attempts to defend him are illogical and deceptive.

 

When will Biden shut up about his dead son? It utterly disgusts me that he continues to exploit the death of his son for personal political gain. What a subhuman scumbag Joe Biden is.

 

And yeah - what in the hell does this scumbags son dying of cancer have to do with this? What does it have to do with anything?

Joe Bidens son died everybody.. Jesus Christ what a subhuman dog.

Julie Gillard exploited the death of her father in the same way that Biden exploits the death of his son. What is wrong with these people?

What kind of scum exploits the death of a loved one for political gain?

 

Yup, Biden is a lowlife. But it won't make a bit of difference to the Democrat loyalists. As long as he has a "D" next to his name, then he can do no wrong.

 

It sounds like a deal made between the US and Turkey, Kurds be damned.

 

and do not forget Trump offering to pay their legal fees......

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As far as I can tell, the US has not acknowledged any American soldiers being killed in Syria. That is perhaps the bigger story here. Biden apparently wanted to shut the guy up. He was a bit sloppy with it; not denying it and offering to meet after the event.

Undoubtedly someone reminded him that Americans killed in Syria is an off-limits subject. The guy will never hear from Biden.

 

not sure what you mean? not acknowledged? are you saying the USA is saying no Americans died there? sadly people die during wars.... I wish we would of just did a quick retaliation to 911 and then came back home, the two Bush 10+ year wars have made us less safe

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The only reference I've seen in western media is of one American civilian volunteer being killed while fighting alongside the Kurds. No mention of any soldiers. Southfront (not western media) reported on 3 American soldiers killed fighting near Manjib.

The US has acknowledged American soldiers being killed in Iraq lately, but not in Syria.

 

I am not sure everyone is mentioned in any war, is there a list of the names of everyone that died in Afghanistan or Iraq somewhere

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I've always had tremendous respect for Joe Biden and I think Obama picked him as his VP to kind of give a softer side to his administration. Yes, Biden is known for his gaffes, but it's because he's so personally vested in his job. If only more public servants were like him.

"This is a sectarian conflict that 50,000, 100,000 not even 150,000 Americans could stop." If it weren't for legacies and firsts, we might've had a President Joe Biden.

 

It's 'news' when you have the first casualties in a theater, only somehow not in Syria. Yes, these things get reported. Last week, for instance, it was reported that 1 American was killed in Afghanistan and we've been there for 15 years.

 

Well, we all know that Biden is a liar. He did NOT meet with the man....li,e anyone thought he would. These people are world class liars and Biden is a dolt to boot...

 

Biden is not running for President, but Trump did not pay the guys legal fees that did the punching either.. he lied