'My friends died,' heckler shouts. 'So did my son,' Joe Biden shoots back

Yup. I don't think anyone would argue that deal didn't exist.

These were American volunteers, not US military personnel.

Well, his past conduct cannot change what he did here.

He back-stabbed the Kurds and then lied about it while using his son's death to distract people.

This has nothing to do with Trump. It's about Biden betraying the Kurds and then lying about it.

 

It is not just a liar.
I wonder what kind of personality traits one must have to use his own child's death falsely as a political tool to avoid an argument.
I do not want that person anywhere near center of power, for there is nothing that will hold him at bay, no moral what so ever.
So much ugliness and blackness of soul, I cannot even start to fathom.

 

People like that always end up in power. They are "Napoleons" among us. They are willing to transcend moral boundaries and do terrible things, and others will stand aside and let them out of some mutual interest. This, I think, is how and why governments eventually and inevitably become corrupt. A power-hungry, amoral segment of humanity invariably steps in and makes it so.

 

When you think about the Kurdish/Turkey conflict, it has a lot of parallels to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. As such, we should hold the same barometers of a two-state solution between the Turks and the Kurds, and give them incentive to come to the negotiating tables instead of violence. Because while US Sympathy lies with the Kurds, the US(at least, the Pentagon in speaking) wants a military alliance with Turkey.

We can't do this dance with the Kurds/Turkey, either we pick one or find a way to reconcile the two sides.

 

Imprisoning journalists, imprisoning dissidents, purging almost every sector of society, and imprisoning children.

This is who the US government betrayed the Kurds for.

 

Oh, you mean the international community doesn't want to help your war of aggression in Syria and your genocidal policies against the Kurds? I'm shocked.

 

I got sucked into a NatGeo show about the YPG's fight against ISIS last weekend and the profile of the Kurdish women fighting alongside the men was particularly interesting. One of the commanders in the women's unit got KIA and I can only wonder if that's the same woman (?).

If you haven't seen it yet and you've got some free time on your hands, you might want to check it out:

Explorer: Fighting ISIS
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/explorer/episodes/fighting-isis/

 

Thanks, I will.

But the cynic in me is preparing for a catastrophe of some sort.

They are good people, so if history is any indication, that means they will probably end up getting massacred while the world watches Jersey Shore.

 

You're welcome. Enjoy.

I certainly hope not. We've watched that happen too many times already.

Unfortunately, as your thread reminds us, the Kurds can't rely on our duplicitous government's support...

 

In other news, water is wet.

 

US-backed "moderate" rebels of the "Free Syrian Army" force US special operations commandos to flee city as they hurl anti-American slurs at them.

These are your tax dollars at work.

And you can expect more of this sort of thing if Hillary Clinton becomes the president.

 

Apparently, you can take money from hardworking Americans and send it to anti-American terrorists in Syria as long as you call them "moderates" in the news media.

Then Americans won't mind it.

 

Firstly, was Biden there to talk about the war going on in the middle East. If he was, then the heckler has a point, otherwise the heckler was just there to waste everyones' time and disrupt.

Secondly, did the heckler go back to Biden straight after the presentation or did he just decide to leave a contact number and then go home?

Thirdly, were those American mercenaries who went over there to fight? - if they were there just for the money, then why should anyone care what happens to them and they have no right to dictate what should happen in another country.

 

The heckler has a point regardless.

So let me just concede for the sake of argument that the protester was being a rude jerk, that way we don't have to argue about it.

He tried to get back stage and they wouldn't let him.

No, they are not mercenaries. They volunteered to help the Kurds out of the goodness of their own hearts.

 

As disgusting as this is, I have to admire the brevity with which he expressed his views, i.e., those who wear shorts must die.

No one could ever accuse this fine Turkish citizen of being grandiloquent.

 

More evidence of Turkey's collusion with ISIS.

Obama doesn't care, though.

 

Turkish forces attack and kill Syrian Kurds as the latter group was advancing on ISIS positions.

Turkey has essentially invaded two countries (Iraq and Syria) without provocation or international sanction for the sole purpose of aiding its ISIS proxies.

Yet western governments and media remain largely silent on Turkish aggression and criminality despite said media's endless pearl-clutching over what they allege is Russian "aggression" in Ukraine and Syria.