N.Y.C. becomes first major U.S. city to mandate vaccination proof for indoor dining, gyms

The concept of racism starts with "You guys"

 

It could, depending on the context....

So that clearly doesn't apply here...

 

Some things never change, like democrat state sanctioned segregation.

 

Oh good... now we have the opinion of the sex guy...

Thanks for sharing....

Oh, BTW "Dr" Drew, what are the black rates in the states in question?? You know, an apples to apples comparison??

I guess they didn't teach a basic statistical analysis course in his "Dr" school (or else he was sick that day)...

I've decided you guys trying to push this as a race issue is a lot like the Olympic Sport I watched last night.... Cycling Team Pursuit....

2 teams of 3 riders go around fast in on a circular track... one rider leads the other 2, and when that leader gets tired, one of the other 2 riders takes over...

Actually, that analogy works for most conservative-spun threads on here...

 

It absolutely does apply when discussing the "concept" It starts with a sweeping generalization fallacy. (You guys) Same concept as racism, sexism, ageism, classism, etc. Once the group is painted with a broad stroke, discriminatory actions against the group are then justified.

 

But to add to my thoughts to Dr. Sex Guy, ABSOLUTELY this is modern day segregation.... there will be haves and have-nots...

However, unlike actual racial segregation, it's REAL easy to solve this version of segregation.

Become a have!!!

 

You can get the cdc data here. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends

Dr. Drew is correct and blacks have the lowest vaccination rate. The National average is 70%.

Biden tried to put vaccine clinics in black owned barber shops but it didn't work.

 

With the PF.com "conservative" group, I'm fine with that....

Hmmm... What kind of discriminatory actions do you think are available?? We already have the ignore feature, which I've managed to use sparingly over the years....

 

By your own link, Dr. Drew is NOT correct... check out the Asian, Non-Hispanic table... also note Race wasn't even available for 42% of the vaccinated...



I see where CDC does national demographics by race AND demographics of each county, but not county by race..

The point (again) is what is the black vaccination rate in NYC? I almost guarantee you it's higher than the National Average above...

If Black people don't get vaccinated, they'll "suffer" at the same level from White people who don't... End of the race story...

 

Dude I literally just posted the findings directly from the cdc. The numbers updated TODAY.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends

Your little picture without citations is irrelevant. I have no idea why you'd even post that.

 

cause many vaccinated folks have compromised immune systems due to many different things, there is a point though where we will have to let nature take it's course with those that refuse to vaccinate

 

Who's science? The one being spoon fed to you? You realize there is an entire world of scientist that are very concerned about the potential long term effect to our immune system that we as currently trying to understand. There are SEVERAL other low cost treatments that scientifically have shown to be effective against COVID, yet, all of a sudden everyone is a huge fan of big pharma. Granted, your media will tell you those scientist and that peer reviewed research isn't good information, but you should 100% trust a techonoligy that has been in clinical trials for 30 years, yet not one therapy has ever been approved.....

Even now countries like the UK are backing off pushing this into our kids because of the potential long term effects to them.

UK opts not to vaccinate most under-18s against COVID-19
LONDON -- The British government has decided not to inoculate most children and teenagers against COVID-19 until more safety data on the vaccines become available.

And as I've said ad nauseam, mRNA technology will be revolutionary once we have 100% figured the science out. However, we are at a minimum of a decade away from truly perfecting this technology. Hence why we have SO few cancer clinical trials in mRNA therapy.

 

Fair enough. I just don't understand the desire to emulate racists, sexists, and the other ists. Now the same concept is being used against those refusing to consume a pharmaceutical product.

Step one, create a derogatory term. "Anti-vaxxers" Even though almost all of them are current on their other vaccinations.

Step two, demonize them. Blame them for trying to kill grandma.

Step three, use the first two steps to justify discriminatory actions.


If the vaccine was effective, there would be no need for such discriminatory actions.

 

One - Complete speculation.... And Anti-vaxxers has been around for decades, not just for COVID.... nobody created anything here.
Two - Nobody has said they're trying to kill anybody, but the end result could be the same.
Three - Discriminatory actions are around us everyday... this is little different and is ridiculously easy to avoid... Hell, even T**** likely has a vaccine card, not that he'd visit a restaurant or gym (LOL) in NYC anymore...

 

That does not justify this abuse of power. There are very few true antivaxxers. Doctors and healthcare workers are hesitant to take this vaccine. There is no long term data and new information like the one we are discussing here, only reveals the ineffectiveness of the vaccine.

Those that go to the gym regularly carry the lowest risk. The main factor in Covid is obesity and existing medical conditions. Keeping people out of the gym does not benefit society. My gym was open the whole time. The owner would rather pay the daily fine than deny access to exercise.

 

So is that a yes? You support a Woman's right to choose? You know, pro choice?

 

Mayor of Boston is pissed.

 

Did you not even read my very first post in this thread where I clearly stated I do not like this idea that NY is doing?

LOL, actually read folks posts before you start arguing against them.

 

Well, those are 2 solid arguments against this proposal..... and no sign of the race card, of which I also approve.



Do you consider 20%+ to be "very few true antivaxxers"? I find that to be a very concerning number

https://www.futurity.org/how-many-americans-identify-as-anti-vaxxers-2578842/

Also, I cringe when you say this is an abuse of power.... it's just not.... the government is fully authorized to make health decisions like this.... Just call it a questionable-to-bad decision and leave it there..

 

Absolutely. If folks want to pray their health issues away rather than trusting science and their doctors, have at it.

 

Then you do you! Hopefully prayers will heal you rather than trusting your doctor or scientists.

I appreciate your feed back on your fears though, but I will still choose to trust my Doctor and science and get a booster vaccine if necessary.

 

Logical fallacy but what I expect from those defending tyranny.

 

Not sure why you are afraid to answer. You claim to support personal freedom of choice, but can't answer a simple question regarding if you support a Woman's personal freedom of choice.

 

Of those 20%, most are current in their other vaccines. Personally, I identify as a dog. I felt this way ever since I was a puppy!

And who authorizes the government to take such measures? When Corona Virus was just hitting the news, mom n pop businesses were forced to close so people could crowd Walmart and fight for toilet paper. Our mayor gave his "stay home" speech and the next day, parking enforcement came and towed their cars from the "anti-gridlock" zones. A few days later, he gave his "Don't go to work. enjoy the parks and beaches" speech. The next day, he closed the crowded parks and beaches.

I spent the weekend in Carmel, CA and they brought in light up signs saying "No mask, $300. fine" This is outdoors in the sunshine. (UV light)

At every turn, elected officials screwed the covid pooch and have shown that they are not worthy of even the minimum amount of power. Of course, the mandates don't apply to them.

 

Trolling and thread derailing is reportable you know. I won’t but get a clue.