National Football League 2012-13 Season

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Talon, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. elijah

    elijah New Member

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    Does anybody here play fantasy football?
     
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    I played pop warnner thru 12th grade. quit after an ankle injury. love the game. Raiders til I die.

    Let's talk football. preferbly college and pro.
     
  3. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    He's got bad hands, is a mediocre route runner, and is too short. He should be strictly limited to punt and kick returns.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    lol

    Good one.

    They play my Bears this season at Chicago. It's gonna be embarrassing how badly Cam Newton gets rolled by our defense. You'll see.
     
  5. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Anyway, my Bears are totally under the radar, despite the fact that they improved immensely over the offseason. Before Cutler got injured last season, the Bears were rolling every team they played, now we're back and better than ever with a new qb-friendly offensive system. Cutler is way athletic and smart and has a cannon arm. When he starts audibling and rolling out, things are going to get difficult for the other team. Our defense is still one of the best in the league, but the Bears, and Chicago in general, typically get overlooked by the sports community.
     
  6. FactChecker

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    I'm expecting the NFC North to send 3 teams to the playoffs this year, with all 3 having a fair shot at making it to the Superbowl.

    Poor Vikings...
     
  7. Ethereal

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    The NFC North is the most stacked division in the NFL by far. ESPN always hypes up the NFC East but the Giants and maybe the Eagles are the only legit threats out of there. Cowboys and Redskins will go nowhere. NFC North is going to be spanking teams this year, gonna be fun. The division battle will be between the Pack and the Bears, though. The Lions aren't there yet.
     
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    yes. I play. I got a league.

    my bad. I mis-reaad the post on my last comment.
     
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    4Horsemen Banned

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    And this is why the Bears will be horrible this year. yall will be beating each other up so bad the injuries will mount up. My Raiders will be better than your Bears. Cutler's an underacheiver.
     
  10. FactChecker

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    Well, that's just untrue.

    The Lions went to the playoffs last year, and they brought back every player except one of the lowest ranked CBs.

    Their backfield is (tentatively) healthy, which is an improvement over last year, and they upgraded their offensive line. Plus, you can't discount the benefits of having a Defensive line that has worked together for a year now.

    It's going to be pretty close between the Bears, Packers, and Lions.
     
  11. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    If anything, he's been an overachiever given the circumstances that have surrounded his career. Last season, when the Bears won six of seven, Cutler won those games almost by himself. He avoided so many sacks in such athletic ways and still manged to complete amazing passes in Mike Martz's convoluted offensive system. Thats pretty god (*)(*)(*)(*) impressive. People don't realize how good of an athlete he is. He was all-state in basketball and baseball as well as football. Anyway, he has been performing, it's the ownership and coaches who haven't put in him a good position to win. However, that excuse is gone this year and everyone knows it. The hype in Chicago is through the roof.

    Raiders better than da bears? Not this year, my friend. I'd be surprised if you guys made it to the playoffs.
     
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    The Lions definitely can't be written off but I have a hard time believing things will pan out for them against the Bears and the Packers. Last time the Bears played the Lions the Bears cruised to victory. The only reason why the Lions made the playoffs is because Jay Cutler broke his thumb.
     
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    You do realize the Vikings just got better with that QB right? Packers,Lions(Megatron)..yall will be lucky to get outta your division with a decent record.


    ahem...clear my throat right quick. YOu know the Raiders beating up on our division last 2 years?? we are gonna be the team that puts Peyton Manning on ice for goood. watch. ...lol

    WE READY!
     
  14. FactChecker

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    Last year, the Lions and Bears split the series. You understand that the big problem the Lions had was depth, right? At the end of the year, they had a WR playing CB.
     
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    I guess we'll just have to wait and see, friend...8)
     
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    Terrell Owens signs with the Seahawks. Although I've never been a big fan of the guy(on the field-yes, the other nonsense-no), I'm actually happy for him that he is getting a shot. Hopefully it works out for him & Seattle.
     
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    It surprised me quite a bit that anybody signed him, given he's suing his former team in the IFL for cutting him.

    That said, if TO can bring his potential to bear, it'll be a good move on their part.

    If not...
     
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    Hope Dallas does well this season, already know one of their linemen will put that new QB RG3 out of business hopefully in a pre-season game.
     
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    The first 2 things matter(especially the second thing), but Wes Welker is shorter than Hester, but still great. That is because he is an extraordinary route runner, and he has very good hands. On top of what you mentioned, he also lacks natural wide receiver skills and instincts. He was a cornerback in college. The Bears tried to teach him receiver skills, and it just didn't happen. Sometimes it is just there, or it isn't.
     
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    Me too. I was actually hoping he landed in Oakland. we love journeymen like him. I just don't get the issue with his injury.. was it really that bad that no team is willing to take a chance on him? he shined his last year in Buffalo, so wtf???
     
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    I want me some Gloryhole!

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  22. FactChecker

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    His issues are mainly off the field issues, prima dona attitude, and his tendency to stop putting in effort.

    Maybe being in the IFL humbled him a little, but I'm not expecting so, based on what we've seen so far.
     
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    I don't that either man. tbh. I have to debate you on his attitude now...lol....

    because this guy is from Alabama, THE BOTTOM. played at a small community college. so humble is T.O. all day long. I jus think the man is FULL of zeal and anxiety to win so when he loses, he lets the whole locker rooom know it. that's not cancerous in my opinion. that's called gettin' on your teammates butt when they don't give 200%..and he will also call out the coaches, and tbh, WHY can't a player call out a coaches bad play calling sometimes??? It's always about the players bad decisions...never the coach.

    Now he just caught what 12 TD's his last year in Buffalo, 2nd only to Larry Fitz I think. I bet you Ryan misses throwing to him.

    I put money on it, that he will catch at least 7 TD's with the Seahawks, you watch.

    T.O. is not a problem in my opinon, he just wants to WIN BAD! I know that feeling.
     
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    I don't think there is any disagreement that TO is massively talented, and is probably still a legitimate No. 1 reciever on the field.

    However...

    Here's why he isn't with the IFL anymore

    That's pretty bad, but if it were a one-time event, I'd say that he should get the benefit of the doubt, or even just get another shot.

    But this is a TO who was already in legal trouble when he did that.

    But let's go back to the beginning of his career.

    First team: San Francisco. Why isn't he there?

    After losing a game in 2001, he accused his coach of tossing the game so that Chicago would win. Enough times yelling at coaches and other players, he is traded to Baltimore in 2004. Owens refused to go, and sued to be allowed to go to Free Agency. He ended up being traded to Philadelphia.

    After he left, he told Playboy magazine that his former QB, Jeff Garcia was gay. He obviously is not.

    Now, since he was so dead-set on Philadelphia, and Philly really wanted him, surely this would work out.

    By 2005 (might recognize that as 2 years after he joined Philly), he was insisting that the contract he demanded was insufficient and that he needed a new one. Owens threatens to hold out of training camp, and after a yelling match with Andy Reid, is suspended for a week. In an interview, he attacks McNabb and Reid, and says that the Eagles are showing a "lack of class".

    After getting suspended during a game, Reid says Owens will not play the rest of the year, then Owens gets cut in mid-March of 2006. A few months later, Owens releases a book attacking the Eagles.

    Owens get picked up by Dallas in 2006. After all these issues, clearly Owens is aware that he needs to shape up, after getting cut from 2 teams despite fantastic play.

    With Dallas, Owens has a series of escapades including being chronically late to practices, yelling at the receiving coach, spitting in the face of cornerbacks during games, staying out of practices and games for seemingly no reason, and having some pretty serious substance abuse problems. 2006 was a good year.

    Between 2007 and 2008, TO was an increasing source of contention in the lockerroom. Not in that he was actively encouraging it, per se. However, he was clearly the focal point, because he kept talking about what you shouldn't talk about.

    TO kept complaining that Romo was targetting Witten too much. Obviously, that's very much Romo's prerogative, as well as the coach's. However, TO didn't keep it in the locker room. He went to the media telling them that. As a result, the locker room became divided on whether Romo should be targetting TO more (with most offensive players saying it was Romo's decision, and most defensive players saying to target TO).

    And that's a problem, because you can't run a locker room that way. The QB has to be the one to decide things like that (again, obviously, with the coaches). Consider how well Rodgers would do if Finley was going to the press talking about not getting the ball enough. Then Woodson insisting that Rodgers wasn't passing to Finley enough.

    There is only room for one QB, and he has to make the decisions. TO was specifically a focal point for questioning and not following the QB. That's a problem.

    And that all lead up to Owens being 'blindsided' by Jones cutting him in 2009.

    So, TO picked himself up, dusted himself off, attacked Romo in the press (that would be every former QB he's ever played with, so far), and went to Buffalo in 2009.

    With Buffalo, he was far less troublesome than with most teams. However, that's largely because he stopped going to most practices, stopped putting in a lot of effort with the team. Subsequently, he was dropped. Ironically, the one year that he stayed out of trouble off the field, he didn't do very well on the field.

    Which brings us the Bengals. See, remember how in Dallas, he was very upset about not getting enough targets? Tore the locker room apart based on that? With the Bengals, he got lots of targets. In the top 10 for the entire NFL. So, when the team went 4-12, the criticism goes to... the coaches again. Admittedly, he does say that the players (himself included), were not playing well. Only because the coaches weren't doing their job, of course.
    This was followed by him being cut. Again. And no team in the NFL picking him up.

    Think about that for a moment. A Hall of Fame receiver who performed incredibly for every team he played with (except the Bills), got cut 6 times, even when he would agree to play for the league minimum. Every single coach he played with, he insulted. Every QB he played with up until 2009, he publically attacked.

    Here's the thing. It is completely undeniable that he's an incredible receiver. He's a solid number 1 option for the Seahawks, and turns their recieving corp from the lower end of middling, to a really good corp.

    However, it's equally undeniable that he is a complete disaster when he's not on the field.
     
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    Again, he's TNT in pads man. deep down I bet those players love to play with him.

    Football is 99% about attitude. imo, it's the wimpy coaches that can't handle the strong personalities of these off the charts players. these guys make millions to entertain us, so you can expect some bad behavior, nobody is a saint here. most these NFL guys come sandlot situations so when you pay them $24 million and not expect alittle cockiness off the field, you're just wishing for snowflakes in a hurricane
     

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