Neighbor with footage of Ma'Khia Bryant shooting: 'The video doesn’t lie'

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  1. cd8ed

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    As college grads flee the GOP, political ‘diploma divide’ grows

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    Are you talking about the study by Diana Mutz that basically came to the conclusion that college educated white males primarily voted for trump due to fears they are becoming a social minority?
     
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    No I'm not I'm posting for my cell phone right now at work so I don't really have all of that information immediately available but I'll ask you again what party do you think is the party of the welfare vote and do you think those welfare recipients are highly educated
     
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    I like the understated humor in this post.
     
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    I hope you will return to it upon getting on a larger device.

    To your question, Democrats do use government programs about 30% more than Republicans do if you exclude Social Security which is “technically” an insurance. One of the reasons isn’t due to Republicans not needing it more or less, they simply do not utilize these programs that have been set up for all Americans because of pride.

    Basically they need these programs but would rather suffer than take help because of their ideology. This is the same ideology Republicans want the entire nation to have.

    I don’t know if the above does much in the “educated” argument. Some people on social programs have disabilities and are working poor — I have been unable to find a metric that breaks this down substantially.
     
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    So...waiting for links I got impatient and trotted over to CNN myself. Nothing about this being labelled as a racist shooting. Even Don Lemon saying it was appropriate. Look:



    I'm calling usual suspect imaginitis fed by RW media. Fox must be addicted to advertisement revenue from triggering anxious MAGA!

    p.s Still awaiting links...
     
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    Well since you provided no citation on that claim I'll have to remain skeptical
     
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    They can't afford not to get out in front of this story can they? Black on black crime is BLMs Achilles heel. In fact blacks killing each other undermines so many narratives it's kind of surreal. Do the (D)s and blacktivists really want the world to believe that knife fight ... well brutal knife weilding attacks, are just a part of childrens lives in black communities? Making the perception even worse is that this happened in what looks like a nice middle class neighborhood. The assailant's mother described her deceased daughter as being an "angelic" honor roll student. What have liberal educators been teaching this girl, and other minority honor roll students about civility, and conflict resolution? If teen girls stabbing each other is just a teen rite of passage, then blacktivists should focus on abolishing that and give cops a break.
     
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    I don't mean this to be opportunistic, but I've heard it said that many on the Right don't take advantage of social services because they perceive getting welfare as bringing them "down the level of the black man".
     
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    That "level" being unemployed and dependant on government "crumbs"? I don't think being agaist taxing your neighbors to support your own needs says anything bad about a person. I do think spending years on welfare waiting for a "perfect" job does though.
     
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    I'm not sure what it means, but it could simply mean being black. Predisposed - because they are black - to being unable to control their behavior, and/or stupid and incompetent. Or simply inferior.

    These kind of prejudices are etched through many generations, but I'm not sure what the average contemporary MAGA descendant feels deep down inside their heart. I've seen plenty of disturbing stuff on this forum alone. Just the other day someone said they didn't blame the Chinese segregating blacks, given the way that blacks behave. So in some quarters I would say these prejudices are alive and kicking.
     
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    LOL ... they're sure "etched" in your brain ... and I doubt that's healthy. What helps promote those stereotypes is part of what we're discussing in relation to this incident. More (D)s and activists than I can count are saying knife fights are just a part of growing up black in America. It's not Donald Trump, or conservatives who are saying that.
     
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    After providing zero evidence for anything you are claiming and refusing to participate because you are on your phone you come up with that single line in response to a multi paragraph response.

    I would be lying if I said I expected better.
    I won’t make the mistake again.
     
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    I don’t know if that is the case or not, I have read a few articles on why it is looked down upon due to how they perceive society views it when it is actually just their fellow conservatives. I have family that needs aid but refuses because they feel it is either a sign of failure or feel the government shouldn’t help anyone, I have other family that doesn’t need it but gets it anyway because it is “free money”.

    It would be ironic for a white person to be against welfare for the reason you stated seeing that more whites are on welfare than any other race. Maybe they mean per capita — but I wouldn’t expect someone with such a grievance to understand what per capita to mean...
     
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    Ok, so we are topic and concept jumping. Three times in one paragraph. I brought up a very specific aspect which you responded to, and now you're taking me down three other paths. Three other debates for another day.
     
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    LOL ... you introduced the stereotypes, reference to welfare, and what you presume white people think. I steered us right back on topic, and I do notice how much you hate it. Go ahead and pick whichever path you want to go down OK. There's nothing about this topic, or the rabbit holes you dug that's even remotely defensible.
     
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    I admit it was off topic. Where is the evidence of my hatred? Happy with my post.

    Plenty of anecdotal evidence on this board and elsewhere. I have no scientific data at my fingertips and admit that. It was a musing. I might consider following your breadcrumbs another time. Sorry if that upsets you.
     
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    I'm never upset when I win an argument. They're your crumbs, and just like I said they're all indefensible. Better luck next time tho.
     
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    Valerie Jarrett went on twitter to demand accountability.
     
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    the crazies on the right and left just want to stir up trouble and divide us
     
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    yep and some republicans defended a cop that killed a handcuffed man slowly over 9 minutes

    like I said, both sides have em
     
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    I know some republicans on welfare, anyone who needs it gets it, love how some make stuff up, you won't get any links from them on that one
     
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    Yes, I suspect it would just be a sub group within Conservatives, if anything. A lot of Conservatives are really quite decent people. I worked in 'Red' West Virginia for a bit and was able to see that for myself.

    So admittedly there could be genuine pride/shame involved for your relatives not wanting to take aid, rather than a disdain of the company they would rub shoulders with doing so.
     
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    I can't even remember how we got here. This is what happens when you try and talk to someone interested in "winning".

    For reference, I was able to satisfactorily resolve the issue just above. Notice any differences in the quality of exchange?
     
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    How about this Rando with 50 million followers?

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebec...r-involved-in-makhia-bryant-shooting-n2588346
     
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    No ... and I'm sure it's way too much to ask you to point it out to me.
     
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