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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    What Reagan took from us.

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    In this image, entitled Reagan is an antigun *****, we see the pre Hughes Amendment market news for the burgeoning American machingegun market.

    It was a center of continuing american manufacturing. It kept us on the cutting edge of small arms development. It was anti-capitalist, anti-gun, and downright anti-american to destroy this industry. It happened on his watch and he didn't allow any challenges to the amendment despite a call for a formal vote going unanswered during the head count ****ery that passed it with the hughes amendment inserted.

    This was a part of his history of grabbing, as a politician. As Governor of California, he lobbied for and signed into law a huge restriction on the right to keep and bear arms.

    TLDR: Reagan sucked and is one of the many reasons we cannot have nice things.
     
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    I don't know why but that weapon looks kinda inefficient anyway.
     
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    Actually it looks plenty of efficient. It appears to be a 9 mm with a suppressor and a high capacity magazine. Also looks like it can be fired as a carbine with the stock, or as a pistol without.

    Although that's not to say it would be all of that accurate in full automatic mode. But I'm sure it would be loads of fun and a blast to shoot
     
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    Submachineguns are useful for guard duty, security/bodyguards, home defense etc.
     
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    It's great for close quarters.
     
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    there is a lot more to the Hughes amendment that meets the eye and Reagan's blame is far less than many on the pro gun side would have you believe. I know this because his legal counsel included two close friends of mine who are intimately familiar with the environment surrounding the McClure VOlker act, the fact that the GOP knew it was going to lose the senate a few months later-bad legal advice Reagan got as to what the courts would do and the blatant dishonesty of Hughes and Rangel and the ATF
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't know Reagan was anti-gun but I do know Biden said if you want to protect yourself buy a shotgun.
     
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    is the right anti-shotgun now?
     
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    Most of us with any gun sense are against his advice on using a shotgun..... He said just shoot through the door. Maybe that old guy that shot the black kid through the door was listening
     
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    Shotguns and hand guns each have their place
     
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    They can both shoot through doors...
     
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    yeah, I couldn't have won the national Junior International Skeet title with a handgun I used a Perazzi Mirage. I couldn't have set the world record in bowling pins with that shotgun. I used Colt 1911 that was heavily customized by me and a former Army gunsmith.
     
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    and walls, so be careful who you shoot
     
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    How many people have died in mass shootings with this weapon and weapons like these? How many wounded? How many have lost a loved one?
    This is nothing but justification for arms dealers. The armament industry has turned America into a war zone and worse has encouraged smuggling of these weapons out of the USA to countries across South America.
     
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    According to Joe Biden we should just blast through the door with the shotgun.
     
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    Why don't you tell us how many Americans have died in a mass shooting with a submachine gun ?

    I'll give you a hint...... Somewhere south of zero
     
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    I think there has been one more murder with a SMG in the USA over the last 75 years than with an Assault Rifle.
     
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    that is as hilarious as it is erroneous.
     
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    Now that I think about it I believe you're correct and I think it was a cop who murdered an informant
     
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    Is it? Just listened to a hearing with the director of the ATF where this very issue was discussed and the issue of that impacting on illegal immigration


    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ent estimated that,first filed in August 2021.
     
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    Is it? Just listened to a hearing with the director of the ATF where this very issue was discussed and the issue of that impacting on illegal immigration


    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ent estimated that,first filed in August 2021.
     
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    And weapons like these - did you miss that part? Mind you, you have made my point anyway. The very lack of availability has protected people
     
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    Your video is absolutely hilarious because it starts out with Matt Gates grilling the ATF about how many guns the ATF themselves has allowed to be stolen from their possession.

    If we were to run a background check on the federal government based on their incompetence and violence and their history they should not be allowed to have guns
     
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    Yes it does - and you didn’t listen past that did you?
     
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    I don't have all night to sit there and listen to the video and try to discern the point you want me to see at some random point in a video that's probably 30 minutes long at least.

    Do you have a time stamp relevant to your point?
     

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