NEW-100% Proof Of Controlled demolition of WTC 7

Discussion in '9/11' started by Don Townsend, Sep 2, 2014.

You are viewing posts in the Conspiracy Theory forum. PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening.

  1. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, Bob, I've read all the pains taken to prove that there were explosive noises, but they are not consistent with a CD and they are more consistent with the explosions that occur in fires. That one won't fly.

    Well it wasn't and that is the point. The police and fire dept. are trained to spot it. The Munroe effect is just one of the physical signs of the use of explosives. None of the usual signs that explosives were deployed were recorded.

    Are you insinuating that the FDNY, the Port Authority and the NYPD are all in on it?
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    silent cutters!
    [​IMG]

    beautiful demolition firing sequence
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    but the building didnt actually do what nist said
    [​IMG]
     
  3. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    No evidence for those being used. I could say it was a pissed off T-Rex and it would be just as valid.

    I think you'll find that video is a fake if I'm not mistaken. It was a Youtube hoax on 9/11 truth IIRC, and the man later revealed the hoax on his Youtube channel.

    The NIST used the video footage to create its model. Yours is a vague claim that could mean anything, so if you could clarify your point I'd appreciate it.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think you will find that video is not a fake since its on nist site LOL

    well they had part of the demolition progression correct, you can see that.

    you need to sort out which video you are talking about, this one is not the one claimed to be a hoax.

    Oh sure there is evidence, molten iron is the evidence of thermate cutters.
     
  5. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    Can you please supply the link? I'm not so sure about your citation, I'm sorry, but I've never seen that particular video on the site. Maybe your forgot your source?

    ETA: I just went to the site and I couldn't find it. Please post a link.

    And after reviewing that video on your post, it is clear you are confusing the appliances within the Eastern Penthouse (air conditioning and elevator motors) falling through the floors with the firing sequence of a Controlled demolition. You can see the sequence has started just before the flashes, so that one actually supports NIST.

    No, those flashes do not denote a triggering sequence. See my point above.

    Ok, if you say so, it looked much like the hoax video I watched some time ago. Can you supply the source for these videos? It is important to cite your sources as that video could be a hoax if it is not on the NIST site (which I don't believe it is). As shown by the hoaxer, it's not hard to fake a video. Anyway, it doesn't really matter as it not evidence of a CD.

    No, it's not evidence of thermite cutters, that is a ludicrous claim, and you should know that. No-one knows if the molten metal witnessed was iron, so that is just another biased assumption.

    So far in one post we need to make three leaps of faith to accommodate your hypothesis, and that is not the way it is done.
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure it is, you dont understand what the evidence of a thermate cutter is.

    Sure they do, unless you think its just a bunch of terrorists lighting their farts in a perfect demolition sequence?

    I dont keep a log, now if someone wants to pay me to keep a log I will. So normally you would be SOL, however I just happen to have this one.

    [video]http://wtcdata.nist.gov/gallery2/v/Collected+Materials/Organized+Photos+and+Video+Cli ps/VideoClips/WTC+7+-+2+parts/WTC+7+Part+2/WTC+7+part2+clip26.avi.html[/video]

    lit that baby right up!

    this one is far better resolution

    [​IMG]

    oh and btw nist says its the original, and it may be but its not in the original resolution which is far better than the ones on their site. If you get all the originals in original resolutions on their site you are talking about several terrabytes of video but you can see it fairly well none the less..
     
  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    see on any other builing in the world it would mean it was being demolished

    [​IMG]

    I suppose you believe someone was having a fart lighting contest maybe?

    interesting, you can even hear the explosion they said didnt exit on the cbs clip on the nist site.
     
  8. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    I understand what evidence is and there is nothing to support your claim of thermite cutters, and you must know that is obvious. Evidence of a thermite cutter being used would be parts of the machine, not a belief. Sorry, but that comes nowhere near being evidence for CD.

    What a ridiculous statement. Listen, if you wish to debate with me, dispense with the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag crap, Ok? Or I will ignore you. I'm not interested in slanging matches with teenagers who hang around Youtube comments sections acting like a dick. Understand? I told you what I thought was a reasonable explanation for the flashes and you completely ignored my answer so you could score some cheapass points. Just don't, or you WILL be treated with the contempt such behaviour deserves.

    It is just common courtesy to supply sources, it is that simple. No need to be sarcastic about it, but thanks for supplying the source, it was in the gallery and I missed that.

    No, clearly the collapse was already underway when the flashes were observed, so that is just a fantasy. Logic would suggest the appliances within the Penthouse were punching through the floors as the interior gave way. That was fundamental point in my last post and you ignored it. You ignore the obvious in your haste to prove a CD. It is also noteworthy, that as the collapse progresses from East to West, the flashes follow, suggesting that the collapse is causing flare-ups in the fires.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Are you trying to misrepresent my post here? Because I've given you a reasonable and logical explanation and you respond with this garbage.

    AN explosion, wow! And in a fire too! Amazing! I thought you're claiming that there was a sequence in the video? And you faintly hear something that might be ONE explosion.

    And that is supposed to be convincing? It sounds more like desperation.
     
  9. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    Bob, I'll post this again in case you missed it owing to the derail:

     
  10. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    Your gif has been manipulated and does not match the NIST video you supplied a link to. I don't trust its validity and when I click on the gif I just get a photobucket link.

    They are not the same clip.

    While I'm here, why did you support two independent hypotheses in one post? Thermite cutters and explosives, which is it in your opinion?
     
  11. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    Why did you edit out the following from my post when you replied with the above idiocy?

    "...it is clear you are confusing the appliances within the Eastern Penthouse (air conditioning and elevator motors) falling through the floors with the firing sequence of a Controlled demolition. You can see the sequence has started just before the flashes, so that one actually supports NIST.

    So, you edit out my answer (post #81) so you can mendaciously insert your nonsense and 'act' as if I didn't explain myself. That was incredibly low.

    Don't pull such a dishonest stunt like that again or I will place you on 'ignore'. If you're capable of such dirty trickery, God only knows where that gif came from.
     
  12. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Might as well go ahead,It doesn't get any better with koko.

    Just sayin;
     
  13. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Funny, but I can generate the same types of pictures with Photoshop manipulation also. Problem is, these are prior to the collpase. I wonder why we see explosions going off in all the windows?
    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
  14. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
  15. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you manipulated it with the contrast and brightness on your screen. Yes it is the same clip, I checked, they match.




    Sure it is, you dont understand what the evidence of a thermate cutter is.

    Sure they do, unless you think its just a bunch of terrorists lighting their farts in a perfect demolition sequence?

    I dont keep a log, now if someone wants to pay me to keep a log I will. So normally you would be SOL, however I just happen to have this one.

    [video]http://wtcdata.nist.gov/gallery2/v/Collected+Materials/Organized+Photos+and+Video+Cli ps/VideoClips/WTC+7+-+2+parts/WTC+7+Part+2/WTC+7+part2+clip26.avi.html[/video]

    lit that baby right up!

    this one is far better resolution

    [​IMG]

    oh and btw nist says its the original, and it may be but its not in the original resolution which is far better than the ones on their site. If you get all the originals in original resolutions on their site you are talking about several terrabytes of video but you can see it fairly well none the less..
     
  16. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    I've already been over all of this.
     
  17. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    well if you "still" think there is anything wrong with it then post the one you think is real LOL
     
  18. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And with koko,you'll continue to do so,He's one of the more obtuse truthers
     
  19. Blues63

    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,161
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    "Obtuse". I like that...a little generous, but an apt description. It seems your earlier warnings were justified.
     
  20. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Photoshop much? I can get the same "thermite, lit up" results that you do from a still standing structure.
    [​IMG]

    Look at all THIS thermite going off!
    [​IMG]
     
  21. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    no your pics do not show any such thing LOL

    I thought it was obvious but if you need an explanation I can explain what you do not seem to understand or do you prefer to think about it for a while?
     
  22. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Sorry, but my pictures match your video to a tee. I show "thermite" lighting up the building just like you did. All I did was adjust them in a photo editor. Funny how that works.
     
  23. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,746
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thats bull(*)(*)(*)(*) circle it and repost it.

    I want to see your video or gif of a video

    there is nothing in your photos. prove it.


    this is what rdx looks like;
    [​IMG]
     
  24. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Yes there is. Are you blind? I have the same "lighter areas" in my still photos that you have in your videos/animated gifs. All with an image editor.

    It was simple really. Mine were generated from photos of the buildings still standing.

    I wonder what causes those "lighter areas"?
     
  25. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Interesting. RDX looks like quick flashes in less than a second. Can you explain why the "explosives" flash the red arrow is pointing at lasted as long as it did in your animated gif above and why it traveled downward with the building, staying in the same spot?
    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page