New Crusade 2 - War Against Islam

Well they may not bring down a battleship with a slingshot, but they sure as heck can bring a city to it's knees with a couple of jet liners. One muslim American can kill 13 and wound 32 in a matter of minutes with a couple of hand guns in an instance of workplace violence (not terrorism).

 

Common sense would suggest that they are trying to kill us. Your argument is based in complete and utter denial of current event and historic facts.

I agree. If we truly demonstrated a use of force, they probably would clean up their act on their own like Gadhafi tried to do.

I think we spent way too much money trying to avoid colateral damage and sending in ground forces. We should carpet bomb the crap out of them until they give a complete surrender. In Iraq, the liberals cried it was a war for oil. As if. We should have taken every drop of oil to pay for the war and for the loss of American lives.

Do you know what tongue-in-cheek means?

 

Oh BS! We have fed the world. We have brought them medicine. We have brought them technology to save lives, improve lives and enrich them. We are a leader in the world and an example for all. Just because they are backwards and don't follow our lead does not make us bad. We are the most charitable country in the world (privately and publicly). We are the first to help other countries during acts of God.

Stop blaming America for islamic terrorism. It is insulting that people like you blame us for 9/11.

 

Don't blame me for your backwards civilization. We helped free the people of two of your backwards countries in the last 2 years from brutal dictatorships and you resent us for it. What has Egypt done to stop the violence in Sudan, Libya or Syria? Nothing. You people are useless. Stop worshiping a false prophet and stop killing people in his name. Mohamed was not a messenger of God, but a messenger of death.

 

I blame a whole bunch of people for Islamic terrorism, mostly Islamic terrorists.
I blame the US for creating conditions for the Islamic terrorists to gain support.

The US has brought technology to save lives, sadly you've brought a lot more technology to kill people with.
The US has invaded more countries than any other in world history, started more wars than any other in world history and is part of a small club that has murdered its own people for going on strike or being the wrong skin colour.
Try reading your own history, starting with the invasion and occupation of Hawaii and the genocide of native American Indians.
Then look at CIA activities since its formation and the number of people they've murdered. That lot are still at it with illegal terrorist drone attacks, unless you think flying an aircraft into a foreign country and killing women at a wedding isn't terrorism.

America is a murderous nation with a long history of starting wars and even killing its own citizens.

 

I think you'll find Egypt was a US funded dictatorship. Not bad for the USA's reputation of being a champion of democracy. I think you'll find the US funded the dictator known as the shah of Iran as well.
Unless you were wondering why Iran is using US built aircraft.

 

And so far we have killed almost 500,000 civilians. But hey. We can ignore that.

 

Oh gee. I dunno. Lets see. Just for starters. The Shah? Muberak? The Taliban? Hrm.

 

Got it. So. In order to punish a few hundred people, you want to carpet bomb entire cities and kill hundreds of thousands of MORE civilians, just in order to make a point? Gotcha. Im glad yuo have no say so in our natinoal policy. You would have us thrust into world war 3 in a matter of weeks. And youd prolly enjoy it.

 

Now THAT is funny.

Source?

 

Okay. Sorry. Its only 118,000 civilians. Still way way to high to punish a few hundred people.

 

Although that number ONLY includes Iraq. Not Afgahnistahn.

 

Gee, so many responses to my posts...I'd like to respond to them individually, but all I'd end up saying is that islam has a 1,400 year long history of murdering innocents and starting wars; 1,400 years of raping and enslaving people of all faiths and colors; 1,400 years of torture and forced conversions; entry into the 21st Century has not slowed them down one bit.

America on the other hand, has given tens of thousands of lives to end two world wars that they did not start and saved many countries from total annihilation at the hands of Germany, Italy and Japan. Sure America has been in a few wars, but most we did not start, or we were helping allies (Korea, Viet Nam). We are the good guys. When the war is over, we make allies out of our defeated enemies (England, Spain, Germany, Italy, Japan). When the war is over, we leave, we are not imperialist (Japan, Italy, Germany, Granada, Panama, Iraq, Afganistan). Territories gained have the right to self determination, (Cuba, Philipines, Puerto Rico).

We have used our wealth and power for the good of mankind. We helped end the Cold War freeing millions from the oppression of communism. We have been a force for good for over two hundred years, and yet, you only see negatives when you look at America, and see nothing wrong with the islamic terror that the world has faced for the last 1,400 years.

There is something seriously wrong with that mindset.

 

Dearborn muslims are protesting free speech by stoning Christians and holding rallies to ban "hate speech" that commits blasphamy against islam.

[video=youtube;vnJBW49afzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg&feature=player_embedded[/video]
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/dearborn-michigan-muslims-to-rally-against-free-speech.html

 

come on be honest

 

I just love this- Democracy imposed by force.

We have already been doing that and it not only is it against the principals upon which the US was founded- IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!!

 

Tell that to the Japanese and the Germans.

 

Lol that'll work about as well for you as it did for us. Cheers. See you in hell.

 

For the USA to destroy Islam, we would have to have the political will and a ruthless enough Administration, which would basically have to be a fundamentalist Christian one intolerant of internal dissent and willing to commit any imaginable atrocity in pursuit of its goal. It's possible that such a regime could come into being but it would be a disaster for this nation and its Constitution. I don't want to live in the Christian version of Iran or Afghanistan.

 

We used force to impose our will over the Nazis. It appears to have worked. Islam is evil and evil needs to be stood up to.

 

no its a continuum of good and evil depending on what you hold to be good and evil and how its practiced that’s a bit different then a central government of evil or 3

 

It doesn't need to be a "central goverment" to be exempt from being withstood.

 

It doesn't need to be a "central goverment" to be evil. Islamism and Nazism are evil. Period.

 

Islam as law is evil id agree jus like any other theocracy but Islam itself is not always evil as Muslims are not always evil just like any other religion

 

Not every German was evil, but the ideology of Nazism is evil and some partake. Same with Islam.