New Crusade 2 - War Against Islam

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  1. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    *laugh* In case you did not get it, that was a Monty Python quote, from "The Life of Brian".

    Actually, Muslim Fundamentalists started it. The vast majority of Muslims simply want to live in peace along with anybody else.

    Trying to equate the problems now with "Islam" is like trying to compare all Christians to the Westboro nutcases, or Roman Catholicism in 15th century Spain.

    Yes, you have fanatics and even groups of fanatics, but most just want to be left alone and live their own lives.
     
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    Brought peace?
     
  3. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    When did America do that in the Middle East? Ever? We never conquered any Muslim country and we never set up any puppet regimes. Nice re-write of history though. I'm sure most liberal idiots take that kind of crap as fact.
     
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    Iran, 1952.
     
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    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    Errr, that was in 1953, not 1952.

    And the ruling monarch at the time of the "coup" was...

    Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. The same monarch that ruled after the coup (he ruled uninterrupted from 1941-1980).

    I know that a lot of people on the Left like to try and claim that, but I largely laugh at it. Yea, I am sure the US and UK were involved, but is the ruler of a nation taking control really a "coup"? The Shah simply replaced his Prime Minister, something most Monarchs have the right to do. Even the Queen of England can replace her Prime Minister if she so chooses (although she does so at her own political peril).
     
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    They gave you jesus on a stick...........
     
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    Does nobody watch classic movies anymore?

    [video=youtube;Qc7HmhrgTuQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ[/video]

    [video=youtube;L2Wx230gYJw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw[/video]
     
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    No cannot say as I do. Not a movie buff.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    If America would be conquered it would spawn freedom fighters liberating the USA from the terrorist.
    [video=youtube;F3iRNd9-sy4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3iRNd9-sy4[/video]
     
  10. Mushroom

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    That was actually a pretty well thought-out movie, and probably showed what it would have been like.

    The invader holding down cities, but not having much luck in the countryside. A still active US military fighting from the coasts to push into the middle where it was cut in half. Even the invasion was well thought out, basically a copy of what the Soviets did in Afghanistan (the initial assault by air, with trops being carried in aircraft with transponders claiming they were civilian cargo carriers).

    In many ways, Red Dawn was simply the Soviet-Afghan war moved to the US. But it did show what a nightmare of partaisan activity the US would be for any invader. Sure you got those that would roll over and show their bellies, but you have others that would continue on no matter what.
     
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    Hooded 'Muslim Patrol' vigilantes remove alcohol from drinkers and tell women to cover up as they stalk London subur

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-alcohol-hands-revellers-behave-Islamic-way.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cohol-hands-revellers-behave-Islamic-way.html

    They are a creeping menace. They come here and then complain about our Christmas decorations, ham being eaten in the school cafeteria; they have demanded and gotten foot baths at air ports and they want special toilets.
    How far are we going to let them push us?

    I say, "If they don't like it, they should go back where they came from. They must change to our ways, not us to them."

    They out breed us and there will soon be more of them than us, as in England right now.
     
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    If jihad is OK, then why isn't crusade OK?
     
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    A crusade against all of them? Are you nuts? Do you know how many countries we would have to occupy?

    They are not even all our enemies. Some Muslims are actually enemies of al Qaeda, like in most of Mali.

    If you attack them, they have a right to fight back, and there are just too (*)(*)(*)(*)ed many of them for us to win. If we do not attack them, they have no right, under the Qur'an, to attack us.

    Do try thinking these things out.
     
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    Saud got most of Arabia in exchange for fighting the Turks on behalf of the European Allies.
     
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    Have you stopped to consider who attacked first?
    Yep, Israel and America started all recent wars against Muslim nations and have interfered in internal politics of so many more.
    Muslim nations have started none.

    Now, who exactly is wrong?
     
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    Did you forget to read, "Muslim groups condemn them for their hard-line views and approach", or doesn't that fit your foolish rant?
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    I like videos like this but you have to take a closer look.
    First we need to look at the author's video uploads.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DecanStone?feature=watch

    Looks like a fine, upstanding racist idiot. I wonder how he made that video, working so closely with Islamic militants.
     
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    Those hooded Muslim wanna be Islamic police should be confronted not just by the police but by all civilians and citizens, Christians do not be afraid of hooded Muslims without their hood they are nothing.

    Yes, Muslims have this uncontrollable birth rate that is why they are all fighting each other for space the best thing for the West to do is to curb Muslim migration let them slaughter each other that is their way of birth control.
     
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    Really?

    Never mind that the House of Saud has been influential in that area of the Middle East even before Columbus set sail on his search for a new route to China. And that the first Saudi State predates Woeld War I by over 150 years.

    But please, continue to drink the kool-aid.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Saudi_State
    http://www.arriyadh.com/Eng/Tourism...tyPlaces/City-of-Old-Ad-Diriyah11.doc_cvt.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman-Saudi_war

    Maybe next time you will actually do some research before making such claims.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saud/cron/

    [​IMG]
     
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    Jihad is a struggle. Not a crusade.

    Take a look at this: http://myjihad.org/

    Harbun muqaddasatu is the Arabic term for Holy war. This word isn't found in the Quran once, by the way.
     
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    That might matter in an academic debate, but I couldn't give two craps about who started it if and when the time comes that I have to pick a side. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fear mongering yahoo like FaketriotSpews, but I'm also not naive enough to buy the 'religion of peace' nonsense either.
     
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    Muslims attack first ever since Mohammed created Islam, Muslims have been excusing themselves to commit terror they blame Christians, Jews, USA, UN for everything except themselves. They blame us for buying their oil, they blame us for supporting their dictators, they blame us for supporting their terrorist, they blame us for fighting their wars, they blame us for refusing to destroy Israel, they blame us for giving Muslims refugee status and citizenship, they blame us for allowing Muslims to worship and spread Islam in the West, they blame us for everything, yes you are right Muslims started it all and they are still at it today.
     
  23. PatriotNews

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    And my point proven.

    We have started no wars against Muslim nations. They attacked first. As for internal politics, most are dictatorships. How did we interfere? Making ironious blanket statement without examples is pointless. Try proving your point. Otherwise I could say the same for Muslims. Look how they are interfering with the politics of European countries.
     
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    Here I can point out one in particular which is why it is dangerous to make blanket statements.

    Many conflicts can be claimed to have been started by Muslims, but this is certainly not the case in Bosnia, where the Serbians attacked and slaughtered the predominant Muslim population of that region. And the NATO forces sent in were primarily tasked with protecting the Muslim population of that region.

    And that is indeed Europe.
     
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    Seriously- what kind of alternate universe are you living in?

    Afghanistan- The nation of Afghanistan didn't attack us- they provided shelter to those who did- but there is no way to claim that Afghanistan itself actually attacked us. I agree with what we did, but certainly we attacked them first.

    Iraq- Again- Iraq never attacked us. They weren't even attacking outside countries. We started the war against Iraq, along with the U.N. on the pretext that they were accumulating weapons of mass destruction that would be a threat to us.
     

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