New Orleans will require COVID vaccines or negative tests for restaurant, events, and more

Those rights are already limited.
Does the restaurant have a license from the city to operate ?
A license from the Department of Sanitation ? (proof that they have a licensed carting company to haul away their waste)
A liquor license ?

You're just full of the brown stuff today !

We get it. Your icon tells you what to think and you keep carrying his slop. It's ok. Makes it easier to debunk and laugh at what you post.

 

That's blatantly false. Keep your unvaccinated ass away from my 82 year old mother. (Not you personally.)

Intent.

Does Voter ID intend to restrict voting by minorities? I don't know. It does look that way, but I don't know what goes on in people's minds. I have no opinion on whether Voter ID is racist.

The intent of vaccination is public heath and safety. Has absolutely nothing to do with race.

You do understand what constitutes hypocrisy? You first have to have two apples. You can't get hypocrisy out of an apple and an orange. Taking a (possible) result and applying it to intent is comparing apples to oranges.

And Voter ID has nothing to do with covid vaccines. People's opinions and behavior on each are not intertwined in the least. You can't logically compare the two.

Anyone can search for anything, twist it around in their mind, and say, "Lookie here...[fill in the blank.]"

This particular claim of hypocrisy is a huge stretch.

And of course, let's not forget the most important thing here:

Over 600,000 people have died from covid in the US. At the rate we're going, we'll reach that number of fraudulent votes by the year 17,021.

Voter ID is irrelevant to covid vaccines. And people are hypocrites. Groundbreaking stuff.

 

Like voter ID's?

 

There are ethical issues with forcing unapproved, unlicensed, experimental treatments with unknown risks on people.

 

No, like Pixie Stix. Smh. Stay focused.

 

Many of us called this a long time ago and were called conspiracy theorists.

 

You'll also want to keep vaccinated asses away from your mother. Oh, and your mother is in the key demographics that should get the shot. Compromised health and they don't need to worry about long term effects.

That's a pretty weak response, and one that I've not heard when "racial" issues are discussed. The reasoning is simple, if a policy or law disproportionately affects blacks then it is racist by definition. This is a clear apples to apples comparison of the same logic applied to different policies. You pulled intent right out of your ass. And it stinks.

Strawman alert. Voter ID laws and vaccines are not related but voter ID laws and vaccine requirement laws are exactly the same in this context ie they are both policies that disproportionately affect people of color.

 

It's the real Jim Crow.

 

Misses the point. That being; 1% is so misleading as to be false. I guess I wasn't clear.

That's not the definition of racism that I'm familiar with.

noun

a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

Also called in·sti·tu·tion·al rac·ism [in-sti-too-shuh-nl rey-siz-uhm, -tyoo-], struc·tur·al rac·ism [struhk-cher-uhl rey-siz-uhm], sys·tem·ic rac·ism [si-stem-ik rey-siz-uhm] . a policy, system of government, etc., that is associated with or originated in such a doctrine, and that favors members of the dominant racial or ethnic group, or has a neutral effect on their life experiences, while discriminating against or harming members of other groups, ultimately serving to preserve the social status, economic advantage, or political power of the dominant group.

an individual action or behavior based upon or fostering such a doctrine; racial discrimination.

racial or ethnic prejudice or intolerance.

Vaccine mandates do not originate in the doctrine of racism, therefore cannot be racist by definition.

Which does not make them racist.

Again, the results of an action can be the same, while the intents are different. This whole thread seems to be a kneejerk reaction trying to call hypocrisy. It's childish, thoughtless and logically inconsistent.

To believe this thread, you first have to get something past your mind; the proposition that a black female mayor is prejudiced against her own race. It's nonsense from the start.

You're just playing along with this stupid game of "Lookie here..."

 

And here's a question: How long will this go on?

Just a few months? 6 months? 2 years? Longer than that?

Will they require people to get re-vaccinated, since numerous evidence has shown the vaccine mostly offers about 2 to 6 months protection and then is no longer so effective after that?

 

It will go on until we reach herd immunity. How long that takes is entirely within the control of the unvaccinated.

 

Has your mother been tested or vaccinated?

I hope your mom already had the virus, hear me out.

I got tested because my wife and kid had the virus. At that time I told the doc I hope I test positive and he was ready to call the people with the white suits and butterfly nets. I told him if I’m positive and don’t really feel sick, then I’m among the vast majority of people who are naturally resistant to getting sick and I no longer need to worry about what would happen to me when I eventually get the virus, and that made sense to him.

it’s been estimated that well over half the country had the virus and didn’t know it. Combine those numbers with the number of people we know had it and we’re left with a relatively small number.

If your mom is like me where the impact of the virus was hardly noticeable (no smell or taste) and she walks away with just that, if even that at all, then that’s a good thing, and its very possible that has happened. If that’s the case her worrying is over. Does this make sense?

best wishes to your mom and I hope she’s safe (along with you)

 

The vaccinated can continue to catch and spread the virus, so the vaccine will not eradicate covid. More and more variants are coming.

 

Not really. It's a known fact that the virus within the vaccinated is very much a weakened form. It doesn't spread with anything like the standard strength and it may not mutate at all, certainly not to a stronger form.

You're right in one respect though, This disease WILL be around for some time. It took centuries of assiduous effort to eradicate small pox and I believe other diseases, like measles and polio, are still around

 

Me and my wife had planned a return trip to N.O. but have decided to put it off now due to the new restrictions. My kids have canceled their trips overseas and to Vegas. I think we are about to go into another round of lock downs and mandatory masks. Think I may sell my recovery stocks.

 

2 weeks to flatten the curve.

 

If you didn't understand my post you can just say so and ask questions. No need to say things that would make a fifth grader feel embarrassed.

 

Transmission is reduced, and quite simply, we won't know until we do it.

The main point of these vaccines, at this point in our knowledge, is that they're extremely effective at reducing the effects of the disease. You can't work while hooked up to a ventilator. You can with a case of the sniffles.

 

She should still get vaccinated . This business about everybody having it already is pure speculation.

 

I'm not sure what lying nutters you're getting your info from, but here in the real world vaccines are a safe precaution against the long term effects of disease (not just talking about death).

 

An oldie, but a goodie.

Imperfect vaccines and the evolution of pathogens causing acute infections in vertebrates

 

It is an autocratic pronouncement based on a virus that doesn't exist any longer. The original virus has been replaced with the delta strain that is resistant to the vaccines. The vaccinated people in the restaurants will spread the virus among themselves as well as the unvaccinated. It is about power and control. It is definitely not about the science. the science and the virus move a bunch faster than government.

 

That looks like an interesting idea for a study. What did they conclude, and how does that conclusion apply to SARS-CoV-2?

 

So we should wait a lifetime to test any new vaccine or treatment? For how else can we be sure there are no long term effects?. This disease is killing thousands and overwhelming hospitals NOW. I'm sure those who die won't thank you at all for your concern

 

I never said she shouldn’t get vaccinated, it’s her choice. What I’m trying to say is that after nearly two years a contagious virus probably infected a lot more people than were tested, but they had no or little symptoms. Hopefully that’s the way it is for a lot of people.